Just received a call from a client that I did a survey for a couple of years ago. He says "A white truck with a utility bed and a magnetic sign on the side pulled up the other day and someone with a transit got out, they did some work around and I went out and noticed that the pin that you set in the front and back along the south side are gone. I found the hole from the pin in the front and replaced it with a pipe, but I could not find where the pin in the back goes."
Wish I knew who pulled my pin. I would give him a piece of my mind!
Matt
Can he find out anything from the neighbor without starting a war?
Should you look for new pins in the neighborhood to see whose cap is on them?
Sounds like grounds for a complaint to the board if you can identify the culprit.
sounds fishy
Worst case scenario, a call for the surveyor police. What IS that number, again?
Well, at least they're removing your liability.
Makes those feno monuments Christ Lambrecht sets look better and better.
Imagine watching someone trying to pull a couple of those up.
Sure it wasn't a utility? After they need a box right where this pin is.
Whoever it was will probably be back to finish.
He said he did speak with the neighbor and that he had not hired a surveyor. A utility company was my first thought also. Maybe I'll get hired to put them back in.
Matt
Job security!;-)
It was Kent!
Maybe it was Kent. 😉 (See the post of a few days ago.)
The Search for the 1938 Concrete Monument
by Kent McMillan , Austin, TX, Saturday, February 12, 2011, 07:38 (5 days ago) @ Joe M
……If I were surveying the lot that that rebar is a corner of, that rebar would be gone since it is contributing nothing, only concealing the original 1938 surveyor's mark that is the true corner……
It was Kent!
I was thinking that it could have been Kent at first. Then I just figured that they likely pulled the pins just to find out if there was detectable metal under them, forgot their shovel, and will return tomorrow to complete their search for the "real" monuments.
;o)
JBS
The last time I got a call like that I discovered that the pins were still in place. The "client" (aka SOB) just wanted a "free" visit to find what she had lost track of.
Some people...:bad:
I made sure I told him it would be additional cost for me to come back out. He said he would just wait and see what happened.
Matt
It was Kent!
> I was thinking that it could have been Kent at first. Then I just figured that they likely pulled the pins just to find out if there was detectable metal under them, forgot their shovel, and will return tomorrow to complete their search for the "real" monuments.
>
> ;o)
> JBS
Upon erosion settlement analysis of the adjacent terra firma, the results were that the pins were likely not the original.
Additionally, the rebar pattern was inspected to see if it was a version produced before or after the platting of the subdivision.
Upon realizing it was afterwards, all pins were pulled from the earth and declared to be quickie-dickie, meaningless rebars.
Home owners can be a little unreliable on these issues ... Do you set your pins above ground where homeowners can find them? Around here, It's rare to be able to find the pins without a shovel.
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if you find out that the "transit" was a GIS grade GPS, and the "hole" he found was were the user stabbed the pole into the ground ... and the corners are right were you left them.
"A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if he willfully or maliciously cuts, injures, damages, destroys, defaces or removes any survey monument or marker in order to call into question a boundary line."
What if he does it to make the location of the line more certain?
😉
TPR
That is a very likely scenario. Now there's a pipe in the hole to confuse everybody.
> What if he does it to make the location of the line more certain?
>
> 😉
He gets a nickname like McMillimeter
> ..."A white truck with a utility bed and a magnetic sign on the side pulled up ....
So what did the sign say?
It was Kent!
I am pretty sure it was Kent. He is an self proclaimed archaeologist after all.
Matt-
Should you wish to threaten the person with being annexed to Canada, we have a five year penalty to do away with this type of souvenir hunter:
Interfering with boundary lines
442. Every one who wilfully pulls down, defaces, alters or removes anything planted or set up as the boundary line or part of the boundary line of land is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 398.
Interfering with international boundary marks, etc.
Hah, that"d be cool to go pick up the US border and move it 10 meters.
443. (1) Every one who wilfully pulls down, defaces, alters or removes
(a) a boundary mark lawfully placed to mark any international, provincial, county or municipal boundary, or
(b) a boundary mark lawfully placed by a land surveyor to mark any limit, boundary or angle of a concession, range, lot or parcel of land,
is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
Saving provision
(2) A land surveyor does not commit an offence under subsection (1) where, in his operations as a land surveyor,
(a) he takes up, when necessary, a boundary mark mentioned in paragraph (1)(b) and carefully replaces it as it was before he took it up; or
(b) he takes up a boundary mark mentioned in paragraph (1)(b) in the course of surveying for a highway or other work that, when completed, will make it impossible or impracticable for that boundary mark to occupy its original position, and he establishes a permanent record of the original position sufficient to permit that position to be ascertained.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 399.
Cheers
Derek
