"Plot Plans" again

I worked for a surveyor in the 1980's who charged $150 for mortgage inspections. We never used the theodolite, just the tape and "clapped 90's" from the apparent lot lines. He made a good profit at that rate, at that time. At $150 per plot plan today, the banks seem to think surveyor's should be paying for the privilege of providing these useless "surveys". Just walk away.

I agree with Peter.?ÿ But don't be take it personal because he was trying to chisel.?ÿ They all chisel, they're attorneys.?ÿ They're just looking for a schmuck where they can hang some liability.

I wouldn't even claim the address was correct for $150.

In the late 70's, when locally there was a boom in new subdivisions and fresh monuments with brand new building we were able to charge about that for each mortgage "survey".

The new subdivision houses made up for the time spend on more complicated ones in older subdivisions.?ÿ

$150? When you can go buy a new bronco or blazer at the dealer for $7000 then I suppose you could eek out a living doing that.?ÿ

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adjusted for inflation a MPP from '85 at $150 would be $400 today.?ÿ Like others, I would walk and tell them why.?ÿ

Well, around here, Plot plans are usually required by the building inspector to ensure compliance with zoning setbacks, etc.?ÿ ?ÿWe do those, as instrument surveys, and not for $150/$400 price range.

Mortgage plot plans we don't do.?ÿ We do, however, fix those MPP's that show problems!?ÿ lol, We have had a few jobs from those types of "surveys".

We have Building Plot Plans, Foundations Plot Plans (usually required before a framing permit will issue), and then the Mortgage Plot Plan.?ÿ ?ÿThe companies that do them come from 'Off" Cape since no one will do them around here.?ÿ ?ÿWhen we bought our house 2 years ago I happened to be here when the 'surveyor' came to do the plot plan.?ÿ ?ÿI just gave him my information.....

Don

Ah, the mortgage survey debate once again.....

I did them at the beginning of my career, in Canada. We (2 person field crew) were expected to do 5 a day, with very limited and old equipment. But we did break out the theodolite and make some ties, of a minimum of 3 boundary marks (but very rarely any more than 3) and 2 faces of the building.?ÿ And tape the perimeter of the building. A single draftsman drafted those 5, plus another crew's 5, on 8 1/2 x 11. Five a day, every day, day after day. Price was $250 - $300 per. 1993 dollars.?ÿ That would be something in the?ÿ $400-$500 in today's dollars.

One of Dan Beardslee's maxims was is "you don't want, or need, all the jobs".?ÿ?ÿ

All i can say is I am glad there is nothing even close to a mortgage survey/plan in any of the states I work in.?ÿ To call if a professional product required to be completed under the guidance of a licensed surveyor seems absurd.?ÿ?ÿ

Any survey to locate something in relation to a boundary or of a structure to be shown in its location withing any boundaries is considered a boundary survey and is to be made under the guidelines of Texas BOR and has the same guaranty and bears the same liability as to location and accuracy of information contained on the drawing as any other survey made by a licensed surveyor.

"Any survey to locate something in relation to a boundary or of a structure to be shown in its location withing any boundaries is considered a boundary survey"

Same in Florida.We only do new house construction. Every so often we are called by the original owner or prospective buyer for an update of my original survey. Our flat fee is $495 if there are no changes. If they added fences or pools fee starts at $595. About 20% of the callers agree and the other 80% either faint, hang up, or start screaming some nonsense about money. ?????ÿ

Here in MD a ƒ??Plot Planƒ? is more of an engineering document used to obtain building permits for new construction, a ƒ??location drawingƒ? is what they call a mortgage survey. Location drawings here also need to be prepared under the responsible charge of a licensed surveyor, but you are required to state that it is not a boundary survey and not to be relied upon for the location of property lines or the construction of improvements. My company performs them basically as a service to our developer clients, as they are about impossible to make money on here too.

We are so cruel to insist on filthy lucre when we should be doing the work form the goodness of our heart and desire to serve mankind. /sarc

A plot plan in my area refers to proposed features which had to be signed off by an engineer.

Unless we're pointing out how uneducated the attorney is...

$150?

We spent that on this phone call.?ÿ

I don't have a secretary or book-keeper. I do have an accountant, but to make all the books work for the business everything needs to be tracked. To set-up a job takes a bit of time, for an existing client it can go quickly, but for new accounts there is a good 1/2 hour of my time. To create an invoice, collect the money, go to the bank, make a deposit, enter in all the data into my accounting program and code it into quick-books for the accountant it's another 1/2 hour. I will wait till I have a number of deposits to make before doing that.?ÿ

Anyway just to take care of making and closing a job I have an hour minimum. For a small job minimum charge is another full hour. If it's 10 minutes of work, it's 1 hour charge, if it's 1h 10min it's 2 hours. I can't do anything for $150. In my situation that's impossible.?ÿ