UPDATE
UPDATE:
So this evening her boss called my cell phone, apologized and we worked out the survey questions. I agreed to add two offsets for them and that was that.
I guess the title attorney had enough and contacted her boss, he was very apologetic about the whole thing.
Happy ending, for me at least...
Tom
UPDATE
You know, she may have been going through a divorce, maybe lost someone, or something very stressful. I realize that don't give her a license to be a jerk, but you never know. Chances are like the scenario posted above about being an attorney, though. I would have probably hung up quicker than you did.
PMS
Sort of dislike pointing out the obvious sometimes. Worked with a woman during my college days that could have replaced Linda Blair in The Exorcist without one bit of drama instructions. I think her head really did swivel like that. Her husband (bless his soul) was my boss for about a year. He would calmly tell me, "If Cathy calls, you don't know where I am and then hang up immediately."
One of my favorite co-workers from my first job out of high school was the meanest mama grizzly you ever saw for about four days each month. It's was nature's little way of reminding Glenna that no matter how much she wished she had been born "Glenn", she was stuck with being Glenna. Her "wife", Charlotte, always thought it was funny.
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I have a lot of regrets in life, but skipping my LSAT's for a road trip to Reno to play blackjack isn't one of them.
I absolutely and without pause would have hung up after the word f%$k.
Okay, that was Certifiably Hilarious, David.
> I would be have been hard pressed not to call back and say:
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> "Look, I get it. It was your junior year and you didn't have any idea what you wanted to do with your life. So you thought about movies like "Philadelphia" and "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The Verdict" and all the rest and decided to go to law school...Just like every other upper middle class suburban kid with no career plans and high SAT verbal scores did.
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> You envisioned yourself getting a prisoner of death row, arguing before the supreme court, closing a big wall street deal, whatever. But you found out that those gigs go to someone with connections. So you were stuck with 100K of student loan debt and your only job prospects were working at the public defenders office (and those "clients" are nowhere near as noble and oppressed as in the movies plus they smell) or handling real estate settlements on crappy run down suburban strip malls. But just because you made some freaking serious vocational errors is no reason to act like a such a b1tch."
Absolutely perfect! I dealt with one very similar once about 10 years ago. I doubt she would have shut up long enough to get that said though.:-X
You made me proud to be employed in the surveying field today Tom.
Good Cop - Bad Cop
Sounds like the legal version of Good Cop - Bad Cop, maybe Evil Attorney - Friendly Attorney. Regardless, they still got you to make two allowances for them, which you probably would have made anyway if they had reasonably presented their concerns in the first conversation. Don't be misled into thinking they won't play that game with you especially if they are folks you may never have to deal with again. All part of being an attorney.... Glad this had a happy ending for you.
This was not the result of a divorce or bad hair day
There's almost got to be something to this story for her to goad the surveyor this way.
Someone has got to be looking to get some sort of advantage to their position.
Maybe if one considers who . . . exactly . . . she was representing. Maybe she was attempting to sour the negotiations or sales.
There's no way in HHHEEEELLL, the conversation could've sunk to this depth of nastiness so fast.
Maybe you should check to see if her last name is Gambino...........
This was not the result of a divorce or bad hair day
Here's the back story as I understand it... she had questions about the survey, contacted the title company who then asked me. I answered them and they responded back to her (the bank attorney). The answers apparently did not satisfy her and she asked the title company to go back to me. I explained the stuff in a lot more detail to the title company who then asked me to contact her directly in order to get this resolved for a closing on Friday.
She had soem choice words for the title company as well.
This was not the result of a divorce or bad hair day
again . . .
is it possible she's trying to poison the deal?
Who does she represent?
UPDATE
I get that attorneys practice law, and not surveying. But surveying applies laws. They want to deny it but can't. If a court wants to know if a criminal is legally insane, who do they ask, an attorney or an expert in psychology/psychiatry. They wouldn't have an attorney testify. Who would they ask if they wanted to know how a person died? An attorney or a forensic scientist or coroner who can evaluate cause of death? They would say "in my professional opinion....blah, blah, blah". So now, who should they ask if an improvement is encroaching across a property line? An attorney?
Yes, court might make a final decision in a court case, but until that court case happens, they often times rely on (for example) the coroner's report. The coroner's report holds unless it is challenged in court and the court overrules that decision. Same with a boundary. The surveyor hired to stake or recover a boundary establishes a boundary. That holds unless it goes to court and a court overrules the surveyor's professional opinion. But that is usually done with the aid of another surveyor who disagrees with the first one.
These attorneys should be seeking out professionals for their expert opinions. Not to tell them how to do their job.
There might be a flare-up of some mental disorder causing her behavior. Seriously. (But, WOW!)
