Got my new American Surveyor edition yesterday and it 'fell' open to JAVAD's gauddy adverstisement. Next thing you heard was me ripping it out of the magazine. Is anybody else tired of that advertisement? Does anybody else actually use his receivers? Seems like as much as he spends on advertising, seems like he could save the money and put it towards something else, like changing the color scheme on his recievers!
I do the same with all inserts in all magazines I receive. I can't stand inserts.
I am not a fan of them either, HOWEVER they do pay for the "Free" magazine.
T.W.
True, but I'd rather pay $20 a year for a surveyors magazine with some good surveying articles in it.
> True, but I'd rather pay $20 a year for a surveyors magazine with some good surveying articles in it.
I believe American Surveyor was initially founded as a paid subscription magazine, after Marc Cheves left Professional Surveyor, but not enough people subscribed.
Advertorials
He does support the surveying mags, and they are free.
Not sure why he has to resort to such tactics. Will the bullhorn method drum up sales? Will he convince people that he is the lone martyr that he wants so desperately to be? Worthy of praise for his contributions to GNSS, but sdad to see such desperation. Excellent engineer, but perhaps a bad tactician?
Wonder how long he can keep this up?
I keep hearing about Javad's ads, but I don't get any of the survey mags. I also looked online but didn't see it. This is the second post in a couple of weeks complaining about his ads. I'm starting to get the feeling I'm missing out on something ...
Ad samples
Here are a few fine examples:
To follow up with his comments that he is and engineer and not a politician, and how he hates that the issue became poltical, he offers up with the following hwere he posts a deafeced picture of a politician in January:
http://www.javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20120130.html
But then contrast this with his comments in May of last year where he warns of Lightsquared attacking:
http://www.javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20110523.html
You can read more on thier web site news section:
http://www.javad.com/jgnss/javad/news/pr20120315.html
there might be some very valid things in there, but they get flushed down with all of the self-aggrandization.
Javad Ashjaee is obviously not popular in this forum...but the newer Javad equipment (Triumph 1's) are as good as any receiver made.
We have 8 Javad Triumphs and a few Trimble R8 Model-3 receivers. The crews regularly complain about who gets stuck with the Trimble R8's.
I've found it hard to beat a Javad Triumph-1 with a Carlson Surveyor+.
Javad's tech support is a joke, their dealer support is non-existent, (and I guess their advertising annoying) but they do manufacture incredible equipment that sells for price half that of Trimble and Leica.
I agree with mmm184. The post processing software is a joke as well. We convert the JPS to Rinex and use TBC.
Anybody that is using Topcon Hipers is basicaly using Javads equipment. He designed that system, right before they bought him out. We have an early set of Hipers that came with a post processing software that is called Pinncale. Its not that great to learn, but once you catch on, its not too bad, but its Javads software. I think the guy is very smart and designs some great equipment, I tend to think of him being on the leading edge of GPS design, but his marketing is a little strange to say the least.
No arguement there. excellent stuff, now and then.
Shame he keeps aiming the gun at his foot.
Maybe this will all blow over and the stuff can be judged on its own worthy merits, plus an addition of some actual support etc, but for right now it is hard to see past the looney tunes.
You are absolutely correct! The "FREE" surveying magazine is paid for by the advertisers, PERIOD! If the advertisers do not like what is written about their products, they pull their advertising money and "GOOD BYE FREE SURVEYING MAGAZINE" Good, bad or indifferent, as Bruce Hornsby and the Range's song so aptly describes it, That's just the way it is"![msg]:'( [/msg]
I'm a Javad fan. nuf said. Javad saw the need for glonass, while Trimble yacked about how useless it was. Javad is weird, but his stuff beats the rest of them.
N
I have met many business men like Javad. His product is good and as advanced or moreso than most and he has been involved with the development of many of the products he is now in competition with.
His marketing skills meet his demands and are probably truthful. He is always on the verge of a newer and greater idea.
He is wondering why the rest of us are not as advanced as he is and why we don't understand him.
Actually we do, we just can't always keep up with his developments in technology as fast as he is able to put something else on the market.
GPS product sales in large numbers happen at a snail's pace in comparison to the rate of development.
The overall structure of GPS can not retrofit the existing plan to fit all of his products needs and anyone else for that matter and leave older technology in a garbage pile and cause loss of use for the GPS units of existing users.
Me, like many just can't upgrade at the drop of a hat as easily as he expects and I must rely upon older technology and hope it is still useable for many years to come.
He can gloat all he want, as far as I know he may be leading the pack on product development.
It doesn't really matter when I am still teaching my present crew that the shovel is the most used tool they have in the truck to find existing monuments.
B-)
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> It doesn't really matter when I am still teaching my present crew that the shovel is the most used tool they have in the truck to find existing monuments.
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> B-)
That seems to be getting harder and harder to teach.:excruciating:
JAVAD is brilliant
I cannot believe all of the negativity towards Javad Ashee on this thread and others. The man is the most brilliant electronics engineer I know, and in my and other's opinions truly is the father of GNSS. Trimble, Ashtech (his firm), Topcon all are rooted in his innovation when he worked there. Leica, NovAtel and any others are based on receiver designs he original designed for others. All of you using other brands of equipment wouldn't be using as advanced equipment if it were not for him. I remember in 1988 when he worked with me to send a beta program for a process called Kinematic Survey that he thought would work to have high productivity and we did some of the first surveys with a GPS receiver in motion and getting precise coordinates with minimum occupation. We were trying it with a LXII single frequency receiver and four SVs (all available in the sky at that time) and it worked and was seemingly like magic. His idea concept and development, as well as the idea to do it real time. Today I think many take RTK positioning for granted as if it just appeared from somewhere unknown. GLOSNAS integrated with GPS, where do you think that came from, Walmart? There are other good electrical engineers that design small enhancements, but all of the major breakthroughs have come from the smarts of Javad.
Not to open more salt in the wounds on Light Squared, but has anyone noticed that Javad was the only one offering a solution to allow both the high speed wireless and precise GPS to co-exist. And maybe more importantly IMPROVE the use of GPS by using the LSQ communications. Javad has always struggled with the business end of things and has admitted to me and many others he has difficulties, he would rather in his words "have his head in the box or on the bench" innovating something new and better for the user community. I find it disgraceful that our surveying community has chosen to openly diss him. It’s a free world and everyone has an opinion, and mine is that the father of precise GNSS positioning deserves a bit more respect. His equipment is the cutting edge out there, hands down. He is a friend of mine, and our profession would be far worse off without him.
He is very disenfranchised with the survey industry that think he has some alterative profit-driven motives today, as he is only trying to solve a technical problem, just like he has for the last three decades to give the whole industry better products, including his own which he trys to eek out a living at in a very small consumer market.
JAVAD is brilliant
I completely agree!
JAVAD is brilliant
Very well said, have read about his work as long as I've been involved with surveying.