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Is this really FRKN necessary?

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(@plparsons)
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I cheat and use pinflags to mark my grid, alternating colors so as to not get sideways. I pull them up when I'm done, doesn't take that long and helps those of us with CRS.

 
Posted : August 21, 2011 7:27 am
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No!

It certianly wasn't me, I don't even carry paint in the truck (never have), now if it had four rolls of flagging on it, it might be me!

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Posted : August 21, 2011 7:35 am
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In this case I would have skipped paint all together on the road, lathe, and monument, flagged the lathe, flagged the r/w marker both with normal amount of flagging, this shold be visible to anyone needing to find it and is temporary.

In the case of traverse points along the road, I learned a dot of paint on the edge of paving can save a bunch of time later when recovering said tp.

Whomever used all that paint really "missed the mark".

 
Posted : August 21, 2011 8:36 am
(@the-pseudo-ranger)
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How do you know that's not the site of future construction? Or part of DOT route survey where a DOT inspector is going to visit the site and insure that control points were set to DOT standards? That looks pretty typical to way DOT inspectors want the project marked, so they can find the points easily. I doubt anyone is going to do all that for a TP they never intend to revisit ... there's more to that story than "vandalism" ....

 
Posted : August 21, 2011 1:10 pm
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> Someone went out of their way to make it obnoxious. Could there be a story behind the paint? Did a client complain about not being able to find corners, so the crew "got sassy"?

That's my bet. I'm assuming there is another side to this story.

 
Posted : August 21, 2011 1:37 pm
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I don't even have paint. Never use it.

 
Posted : August 21, 2011 6:24 pm
(@jim-frame)
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> Someone went out of their way to make it obnoxious. Could there be a story behind the paint? Did a client complain about not being able to find corners, so the crew "got sassy"?

The 4-character ID (FRKN) painted on the street suggests to me a GPS network. Who uses named property corners?

 
Posted : August 21, 2011 8:22 pm
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Absolutely absurd. Where on 31 is this?

 
Posted : August 22, 2011 6:47 am
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I believe it stands for FRICKEN; as in... Is this really fricken necessary?

 
Posted : August 22, 2011 9:24 am
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That or apparently the majority of the surveyors posting on this msg board have never done a job where the client (DOT) expects to go out and easily find a mark 6 months to a year later. Plain and simple, if you work in a highway right of way, expect your lath and hub to be destroyed by the first chain mower that goes by. Your paint will have mostly washed away within 30 days. Even Carsonite markers are run over and sheared off.

And for the paint dots everywhere-I get that some people want perfect cross section spacing. But a dot on every shot? This is stupid and I find it very hard to believe that anyone is really doing that. The only place it matters is really on curbs so the bottom and back of curbs don't overlap.

 
Posted : August 22, 2011 4:46 pm
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I stopped at a rest area in SC last year where a crew was in the process of giving the whole place a case of orange measles. Curbs, sidewalks, parking stripes, if they shot anything without putting a dot of paint I couldn't spot it.:-D

 
Posted : August 22, 2011 7:24 pm
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Best thing I ever saw was driving away from about a 7-8 acre topo I'd just done in a few hours, by myself, with the robot. Hop in the truck, go through the intersection, and pass a field where some crew had set a lath and flagging on every last shot they'd taken on like a 50' grid over 15-20 acres. There must have been a trailer's worth of wood on that empty field.

 
Posted : July 10, 2017 7:59 pm
(@paden-cash)
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I'm still on a case of paint that I bought last century...really.

 
Posted : July 10, 2017 8:15 pm
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When I'm not sure as to whether or not I've taken a shot there, I look at the data collector screen which, oddly enough, shows every single shot - even with a description, no less.

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 1:58 am
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Darrell Andrews, post: 89092, member: 695 wrote: Not to condone excessive painting, but one can understand that when doing a route survey it is convenient to spot mark your shots so as to know that you have taken that shot already, just like when spot painting a tree you already tied for tree locations. I have spot marked trees, but I have noticed others while doing route surveys had spot marked every shot and painted station locations on the pavement. Keep in mind that the paint will fade away fairly quickly, at least mine does.

And a side note, perhaps the client wanted profound clues to where the marks are.

If you MUST mark a spot like that use spray chalk instead of paint. It's gone with the first rain or a few days, whichever comes first. I sent a crew back with wire brushes and paint thinner to remove WAY too much paint on a job when the client complained.
Andy

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 4:29 am
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My, how time flies! Only six years ago. Remembered this thread for some reason.

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 4:34 am
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How did Brad go from this poor attitude to liking everything?

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 8:06 am
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Holy Cow, post: 436388, member: 50 wrote: My, how time flies! Only six years ago. Remembered this thread for some reason.

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 8:29 am
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imaudigger, post: 436439, member: 7286 wrote: How did Brad go from this poor attitude to liking everything?

Somehow I knew you would like that!

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 8:53 am
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imaudigger, post: 436451, member: 7286 wrote: Somehow I knew you would like that!

;). Why in the hell was this old post resurrected?

 
Posted : July 11, 2017 9:01 am
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