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How to Survey Property Lines by Steven Innis

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(@derek-g-graham-ols-olip)
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Interesting ?

http://www.ehow.com/how_7229950_survey-property-lines.html

Maybe one of our USA Colleagues could correspond with the Board local to this person/organization ?

Cheers,

Derek

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 1:05 pm
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Wow.

"Wrap the head of the 8-inch metal spikes with a 6-inch piece of red ribbon. Go to each of the locations where you established a property corner and hammer the spike into the precise location that you established as the property corner, thereby creating a permanent location marker."

Next time I find an 8-inch metal spike I know where it came from...

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 1:18 pm
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Don't rely on existing fence lines or other natural borders, such as a stream's location, to determine the property line; they can be misleading. That fence may not have been installed on the property line; and that stream may have changed course over the years. Have a question? Get an answer from a handyman now!

Awesome DIY!

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 1:33 pm
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Start at a manhole, set compass for direction and use a range finder.
Why did I spend so many years learning what I do now?:-P

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 1:36 pm
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I like the example of the Professional Laser Range finder. Facepalm!

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 1:50 pm
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I think is actually an eHow on "How to write the most misinformed eHow".

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 2:12 pm
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I like the equipment called for :

1) a laser range finder for "home improvements". May be they do make one but the only ones I have used were strictly for shooting a straight line.

2) "magnetic compass". I can easily see the guy out there with his 360 lensatic hiking compass out of his trail backpack and then scratching his head wondering how a bearing like "S 42° 17' 52" E" equates to his hiking compass.

3) "red ribbon". Oh honey, where is our Christmas wrapping stuff? I need some red ribbon to go mark our property corners.

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 2:13 pm
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> Next time I find an 8-inch metal spike I know where it came from...

Hey, all sorts of people on here would tell you that not holding it creates a pincushion!

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 3:16 pm
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"Steven Innis

Steven Innis has extensive experience in healthcare marketing, business operations, business management and real estate finance. Specializing in a consultative approach, Innis enjoys a reputation for innovation, enthusiasm, honesty, integrity, and compassion. He finds enjoyment writing articles helping businesses thrive and consumers save money."

But apparently, not surveying. What could possibly go wrong.

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 3:18 pm
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Next up: Save big by doing your own appendectomy

Save big by doing your own appendectomy.

Put the thumb of your right hand in your belly button and scribe an arc with your little finger. Cut along that arc. Cut and spread the first layer of muscle tissue (a mirror here is a big help). Underneath that is a second layer of muscle tissue at right angles to the first. Cut and spread the second layer. Feel around for the appendix, which will probably be inflamed, tie it off, and cut with a sharp pair of scissors. Using a sterile needle and thread sew up the incision. There you go. That wasn't so difficult, now was it. If the site appears to be inflamed after a few days, go to any large pet store and buy some penicillin labeled for fish only (ignore that). Take as needed. If you develop hives and a rash from the penicillin just take a Benadryl or two.

What could possibly go wrong?

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 4:01 pm
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Did not try determine where the author of the article was located. Went to the "Help Center" and suggested "Content Improvement" as follows:

>As noted by the two professional land surveyors that commented this content is badly flawed. Following the suggestions could result in violating state professional practice laws. Anyone surveying their own property is also attempting to establish the boundaries of their neighbors. This would be like practicing medicine or acting as an attorney without being licensed.

>All 50 states require a person to meet minimum requirements of training and testing to practice as a professional surveyor. The Land Surveyors Reference Page http://www.lsrp.com/statinfo.html provides links to these laws. I also noticed several other land survey links on eHow and suggest you review all property surveying content to insure you are not encouraging the violation of the various state laws. In addition I hope you are able to contact any contributors and inform them of the concerns I have expressed.

>I am a Professional Land Surveyor and my web page http://nexgenaccess.com/~dmorlan/ will provide you with more information on myself.

I suggest anyone else concerned with the content go to http://www.ehowhelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new and provide additional constructive comments expressing your concern.

 
Posted : April 15, 2014 8:22 pm
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You guys are right on. We need to think twice every time we find an "undocumented", uncalled for monument. It isn't just do-it-yourselfers. What about when a land owner or utility company digs up the rod, and thinks they might need to put it back in the same place where they found it? Or the fence company who installs a fence right there where the monument is, and mushes the cap into the concrete when their done.

We look like real fools if the property owner finds that, when we came out and surveyed his property, we accepted his "stobs" he set with a rangefinder and compass. Making it even worse that he now thinks he has the "knack" to do surveying.

Of course there are the guys that feel that only the land owner or the courts can create a boundary....but that's another story.

 
Posted : April 16, 2014 5:33 am
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The guy was just about perfect; he only needs to add a dimpler!!!;-)

 
Posted : April 16, 2014 6:06 am
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My comment tot he posting:

"This article is a dis-service to home owners, and has serious potential to create many more problems than it can ever solve. One of the dumbest statements is the inference that a 8" spike will create a permanent corner marker. We, Real Licensed and Professionally educated land surveyors much prefer things like 4' long concrete bonds, 3' iron pipes with surveyors caps, or even drill holes in boulders and rocks. There is a reason that the Profession is heavily regulated and applicants subjected to rigorous testing, "To protect the health and welfare of the general public." It might be a good idea to check with professionals before posting such a stupid article. What's next? "How to defend yourself in a murder trail? (that comes after staking your property WRONG and feuding with your neighbor after creating the problem yourself.)"

 
Posted : April 16, 2014 6:14 am
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> My comment tot he posting:
>
> "This article is a dis-service to home owners, and has serious potential to create many more problems than it can ever solve. One of the dumbest statements is the inference that a 8" spike will create a permanent corner marker. We, Real Licensed and Professionally educated land surveyors much prefer things like 4' long concrete bonds, 3' iron pipes with surveyors caps, or even drill holes in boulders and rocks. There is a reason that the Profession is heavily regulated and applicants subjected to rigorous testing, "To protect the health and welfare of the general public." It might be a good idea to check with professionals before posting such a stupid article. What's next? "How to defend yourself in a murder trail? (that comes after staking your property WRONG and feuding with your neighbor after creating the problem yourself.)"

:good:

 
Posted : April 16, 2014 6:37 am
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It's all OK; there's a disclaimer at the bottom of the page:

"Your survey will indicate the location of your property lines for your own personal assessment purposes but will not be as precise as a professional construction survey is. Hire a professional property surveyor prior to construction to create a mapped survey record of your property that contractors can rely upon."

 
Posted : April 16, 2014 8:17 am
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eHow Response

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Again I suggest anyone else concerned with the content go to http://www.ehowhelp.com/hc/en-us/requests/new select "Suggest Content Improvement" from the pull down list. Then provide additional constructive comments expressing your concern. As I noted in my comment to eHow there are several similar items regarding surveying property lines. Most are equally troublesome and misleading in content. All of these need to be addressed. It would be best if the comments eHow receives are from several professional surveyors. Please remember to be professional and constructive if you comment. Their "content experts" are likely the people posting the bad information.

 
Posted : April 16, 2014 10:26 am
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eHow Response

The original article appears to have been removed. The link in the original post here now goes to a different article with similar content.

 
Posted : April 17, 2014 6:27 am
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I know it doesn't help with older monuments, but we've been forced by regulations to mark all our monuments now.

If you put the lot #s or owners name on the cap with the property line configuration, it's easy to tell if the cap's been disturbed. Just like section corners that get pulled and put back upsidedown.

 
Posted : April 17, 2014 6:35 am