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tommy-young
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10 tracts, 3 of which are contigious, while the others are spread out over a wide area. They are all wooded and hilly. 14.2 total miles of boundary. All lines are to be painted and signs hung every 200 feet, with a carsonite post at every corner. The marking supplies are provided.

The winning bidder?

$39,794.


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 2:05 pm
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That job would go for about 25-27K, or less, here in this part of NY, where it's wooded and steep as well .

If I could get $0.53/ft. for rural boundaries, I'd be in tall cotton, as you secesh would say......

SS


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 2:45 pm
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That's about what we were pricing boundary surveys for in 1980. That did not include painting/marking the lines.

Andy


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 2:47 pm
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That bid would never "win" here.


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 3:01 pm
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Does the work include the usual researching of the property, measurement and analysis of field and recorded evidence, preparation of a plat, etc., as well as hanging the markers every 200 feet?

If so, it sounds to me like the owner of the land is getting a very good deal (or, a bad deal if the guy he hires is "cutting corners" so to speak).


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 4:11 pm

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> Does the work include the usual researching of the property, measurement and analysis of field and recorded evidence, preparation of a plat, etc., as well as hanging the markers every 200 feet?
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> If so, it sounds to me like the owner of the land is getting a very good deal (or, a bad deal if the guy he hires is "cutting corners" so to speak).

Yes.

I think the fellow that won the bid is utilizing "alternative payroll solutions".


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 4:53 pm
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Whew!!!!! Had visions of bad things happening at Harper's Ferry, Fort Sumter and similar locations.


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 6:28 pm
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Just curious Tommy,

Where is this project located?

About how many days work do you think it is?

That is a high bid for that work around these parts, but Location can make a big difference.


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 6:36 pm
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> Just curious Tommy,
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> Where is this project located?
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> About how many days work do you think it is?
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> That is a high bid for that work around these parts, but Location can make a big difference.

High? I don't pretend to know everything, but I just don't see how you can survey and paint wooded hilly tracts for $2800 per mile.

The project is in eastern middle Tennessee.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 8:20 am
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> High? I don't pretend to know everything, but I just don't see how you can survey and paint wooded hilly tracts for $2800 per mile.

I don't either. Around here, the land of people who are land rich and money poor, that is a $75K minimum. From the limited information available, I figure it would probably be quoted at around $90K-$100K.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 8:31 am

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Just curious?
How much is the land price per acre in that area?


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 8:35 am
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Just curious?
How much is the land price per acre in WV for rural tracts?


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 8:36 am
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It is interesting to see the range of prices.

I don't do any work that I can use as a reference for this type of project, but I would have expected it to be about double the number in Tommy's original post. And that was before he said Eastern Tennessee. That ground is much more difficult than the land around me.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 11:22 am
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> The winning bidder?
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We need to stop submitting bids, we are not a contractor. The sooner we, as a profession, realize this the better of we will be.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 2:11 pm
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:good: :good:


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 3:09 pm

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I like that he bid $39,794. That means he must have sharpened his pencil.

Not $40,000, not $39,800 but $39,794.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 3:12 pm
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> The project is in eastern middle Tennessee.

That is like me saying that Birmingham is in "Southern Northern Alabama" or "Northern Central Alabama", which it is.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 3:28 pm
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Contractors, heck maybe even vendors bid.....

Anyone here want to take the "low bidder" on their next
colonoscopy, eye surgery, dental work???? Maybe take the low
"bidder" attorney to defend against that lawsuit from short
cutting so much the client sues???? :'(

We keep this up nationwide and we'll bid ourselves into
the "poor house"..... until that lawsuit that puts the nail
in the coffin and closes the doors for good. :pissed:

Professionals charge an hourly rate.....
Give them an estimate... heck even an estimate with a
Not to exceed number if you want...
Get the public "trained" to call it what it is.... it's
other people that have defined our work as "biddable" instead
of being a professional service. Let's not let them continue to
define what we do, or we'll end up fighting for minimum wage.

Nuthin' personal... Just sayin'..... we need to support
our profession better. 😉

Rant off.....


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 4:05 pm
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Southeast of Murfreesboro.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 5:20 pm
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I'm not going to let pride get in the way of performing surveys and making money. The government wants a bid, so they're going to get one.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 5:23 pm

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