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Bruce Small
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I complete the fieldwork on a survey on November 20, 2016 and so state in the mandatory ALTA certification. On July 3, 2017 I walk the site, note the very few changes (like one handicapped spot removed), and under the certification I state:

Date of last field check: July 3, 2017
Date last revised: July 5, 2017

Paralegal wants me to change the date the fieldwork was completed to July 3, 2017. Is walking around the site with a print and red pen fieldwork per se? I've never been asked to do this before. Your views?


 
Posted : July 12, 2017 10:47 pm
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I state the last date I was at the property.
Finished a title survey July 1.
Today got the call to return and locate an aerobic sewer system that was installed to replace the one that was not actually on the property.
The new date will be the one I return and make that location.
Had there been some many months or years between visits, I would do much more to assure nothing has changed.
Whether you change the drawing or not, you will be liable per the date of your invoice.
Those dates should match.


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 12:11 am
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Bruce Small, post: 436802, member: 1201 wrote: I complete the fieldwork on a survey on November 20, 2016 and so state in the mandatory ALTA certification. On July 3, 2017 I walk the site, note the very few changes (like one handicapped spot removed), and under the certification I state:

Date of last field check: July 3, 2017
Date last revised: July 5, 2017

Paralegal wants me to change the date the fieldwork was completed to July 3, 2017. Is walking around the site with a print and red pen fieldwork per se? I've never been asked to do this before. Your views?

I may be in the minority here, but I think that's what you are doing by doing a site visit. You're confirming that conditions are the same, and if not, you're surveying them in. They obviously needed a current date on the ALTA. Otherwise they'd have just used the original plan, if you'd given them one at that time.

Put the date as surveyed, November 2016 and July 2017. If you need to do more fieldwork to make it current, then do so, and charge them.


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 6:33 am
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Let's be honest, we do walk throughs because we trust that our eyes will tell us whether or not anything has changed, because a walk through is many times cheaper than the new survey, which is what is really required.


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 8:07 am
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I'm sure this paralegal merely has a checklist box to check. I suggest a compromise.

Initial field work completed: November 20, 2016
Additional field work completed: July 3, 2017
Date last revised: July 5, 2017

After all, "fieldwork" isn't strictly instrument ties. A field check is field work.


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 8:22 am

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I always include a narrative on my ALTAs. When I do a repeat ALTA I will always include the original date in the narrative but add the date I revisited the site.


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 8:58 am
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Last date you were there. Field work doesn't have to be with a total station or GPS. You were in the "field" and you were "working"...


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 7:08 pm
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hlbennettpls, post: 436935, member: 10049 wrote: Last date you were there. Field work doesn't have to be with a total station or GPS. You were in the "field" and you were "working"...

I came to that conclusion. Makes no difference if I'm surveying solo with GPS, or with a print and red pen. I have just never considered that before.

Thanks guys.


 
Posted : July 13, 2017 7:28 pm