Working on old deeds. Some don't close by some 0.75' .
Now, they have brgs rounded to the minute, and to the tenth. I'm sure they did close, originally. They vary by 15 to 30 courses. Really, it's not too bad. But, I would like to run them through some software, that will adjust them, but not change brgs more than 29.9 seconds, and not change distances by more than 0.049'.
I'm thinking least squares. But, what comes to mind for you?
Thanks
Nate
What ? ! ! ! Every deed closes perfect, just need to find the corners. I don't think 0.75' is the issue.?ÿ
Like anything, Nate; it depends...
What do you find and where do you find it?
If it's missing; your goal is to put back where it was. Your guess is as good as mine. Or is it; my guess will be as good as yours...
15 to 30 courses leaves a lot of room to massage it.
Best you can do is Wing It:
Nate - the map mode in Star Net will do exactly what you are seeking, once you set those parameters.?ÿ However, sometimes the blunders pop out by changing more than you want, because something has to give.
Ken
Is this just a math exercise you want to do in your spare time?
If not, is it for recon??ÿ Just adjust it however works, and see if it helps you find the corners.?ÿ But I wouldn't be using your adjusted values to set anything
Why?
I thought that the last call "....to the POB" makes 'em all close.
0.75' is good enough for searching. After you find all the monuments you can and measure them, then you may be able to figure out what the rounding did.
Why?
My question also... I don't believe I have the legal authority to adjust every course in a description just to make it close mathematically.
I??m just a humble surveyor with no legal authority.
... the map mode in Star Net will do exactly what you are seeking .....
Really all one word. Mapmode. I use it regularly for exactly what Nate has in mind. Works like a charm.
Wow I think Nate knows what he is doing here.
Some people seem to assume everyone is a greenhorn needing guidance.
It is is reasonable to distribute errors proportionately in the absence of superior evidence. Suppose you have such a m&b deed. No monuments were set. The occupation evidence is much looser than the Deed would indicate. Upon search no monuments are found. Distributing the errors proportionately is an objective method to set the corners (taking into account any calls to superior lines or corners). It??s the same concept used to apportion lot corners in a block.
I don't believe I have the legal authority to adjust every course in a description just to make it close mathematically.
You absolutely have the authority - and obligation - to interpret the terms of the deed in an equitable manner. Bearings to the minute and distances to the tenth can absolutely be adjusted to produce a closed figure whose dimensions round to the deed figures, and that is a much better solution, IMO, than throwing all this into a final leg - which may not be the final leg of the adjoiners deed.?ÿ
Larry P had a good analysis of this; Your closure is dependent on which leg you close.
I sure do miss that guy...
BTW - finding and holding all the monuments isn't a catchall solution to this problem.?ÿ First off, they frequently don't exist. If they did it may be that a surveyor wouldn't be employed in the first place. Second, they may not be called for in the deed. Uncalled for monuments acquire their dignity through acceptance by the adjoiners, not their mere existence, and that acceptance will have to be proven by clear and convincing evidence.?ÿ?ÿ
Wow I think Nate knows what he is doing here.
You think??ÿ?ÿ
Really all one word. Mapmode. I use it regularly for exactly what Nate has in mind. Works like a charm.
Never used this, have to take a look at it.
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Is this just a math exercise you want to do in your spare time?
If not, is it for recon??ÿ Just adjust it however works, and see if it helps you find the corners.?ÿ But I wouldn't be using your adjusted values to set anything
Why not? If the call is N65-32W which is better?
N65-32-00W or N65-32-30W or N65-32-58W?
It may not be your approach, or maybe even mine (depending on the circumstances), but it is not incorrect.
finding and holding all the monuments isn't a catchall solution to this problem
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It sure helps...
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Seldom is technology the catch all solution to boundary retracement.?ÿ I'm a little surprised at the large number of courses.?ÿ I have no idea what the parcel size is or how may courses are either along a road or a meander line.?ÿ?ÿ
Try it first in the computer before going to the field.?ÿ Start searching for monuments and, hopefully, finding some or all of them somewhere halfway close to where the software told you they might be found.?ÿ Maybe the error was thrown into the last leg because it was never run in the field by the original surveyor.?ÿ Nice short cut, eh?