Is it mandatory to set corners in your state when you do a survey? It is here....just curious how many require it and how many don't. We can get around it if the ultimate user of the property signs a specific waiver, but I generally just set them.
yes
yes
Its in the standards for Illinois but as I recall you can not set the corners if the client requests it.
Virginia - yes, except for a few counties in northern VA where you don't have to on mortgage surveys
West Virginia - yes
Maryland - yes, but since I do very little work there I don't keep as current on all regs as I should so there may be some ifs, and, or buts.
But personally, I would set corners regardless of what the law said.
Yes, but there is a push by some to kind of shy away from that. They call it a "due diligence" report, and not a survey. To me it sounds like a mortgage survey, which they do allow in some states. Just not here - yet
Louisiana yes all corners including Pc's and PT's unless one already exist or there is a physical obstruction.
Yes - And we are a non-recording State. Don't know about GA., registered but never practiced there.
North Carolina, YES. Even on ALTA Surveys when the client does not specifically request that the corners are set. Have had that argument in the past. When there is a conflict between the ALTA Standards and the Local Requirements the more stringent applies.
Oh and NO, it is not ok to issue as final work documents that indicate that the corners "will be set in the future".
Larry P
You guys need some Maryland Logic down there:
1. You have to set corners on a boundary survey per the MD regs.
2. If Table A Item 1 is chosen, then an ALTA Survey is a boundary survey per the MD regs.
3. If Table A Item 1 is not chosen, then an ALTA Survey is not a boundary survey per the MD regs.
So...You have to set corners if you perform a boundary survey and it is the setting of corners that defines a boundary survey. (Now if the Board could just issue a defining statement on the Chicken or Egg controversy)
Yes (Colorado)
GA Yes with cap
> Oh and NO, it is not ok to issue as final work documents that indicate that the corners "will be set in the future".
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Mr. P. did you have anyone in mind specifically? While at M&C we were subbed to a feller to help with some backlog work. Being the green horn I had to ask "if the map indicates IPS why are going out to set them?" Seemed kind of odd to me, even at the time, that we would be setting pins based on a map indicating pins had been set. With something of a "wink wink" I was told something to the effect "I guess they were going to get around to it." I didn't really get it at the time and it did seem odd to me none-the-less.
He's a super likeable guy and I wouldn't call him shady or shoddy by any stretch. I'd be surprised if you didn't know him.
E.
No, Massachusetts. We seem to be the only one.
(6) Monumentation. Lines shall be marked on-the-ground such that, in combination with the
monuments recovered:
(a) Sufficient monuments exist to enable future surveyors to reliably reproduce the lines as
surveyed, even if some of the referenced monuments are compromised over time.
Referencing coordinates are not a substitute for setting physical monuments.
(b) The size, composition and material of newly set monuments shall:
1. Be sufficient to minimize the likelihood of disturbance due to acts by mankind or
natural causes;
2. Be stable enough to adequately meet the accuracy standards of the survey;
3. Have a life expectancy of 25 years or more under normal circumstances;
4. Be detectable using generally employed surveying techniques; and
5. Be identifiable, with reasonable certainty, as having been set by the surveyor.
I can think of no valid reason to not set the corner monuments on a boundary survey. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any state that allows it.
Mandatory in WA and ID. I can't imagine working in a non-recording state.
6.11 Required Monumentation for Land Survey Plats.
The Board recognizes the ambiguities that exist in statutes 38-51-102 through 38-51-107 pertaining to land survey plats [38-51-102(12)], monumented land surveys [38-51-102(13)], and monumentation of land surveys [38-51-104(1)(a)]. The purpose of this rule is to clarify when the complete monumentation of a land survey or monumented land survey is required.
(a) Monumented land survey [38-51-102(13)]. For the words, ”to mark the boundaries of a specified parcel of land” [emphasis added], the Board interprets the word “boundaries” as plural and the words “specified parcel” to mean that all corners of the parcel must be found or set.
(b) Monumentation of land surveys [38-51-104(1) (a)]. For the words, “any line points or reference points which are set to perpetuate the location of any land boundary” [emphasis added], the Board interprets the words “any” and “boundary” to be singular and thus not requiring all corners of the boundary of a parcel to be set. The surveyor may set only the corners marking the line, or lines, of the boundary requested by the client and any resultant drawing would be labeled a Land Survey Plat, and shall be deposited if required by Section 38-51-107, C.R.S.
6.12 Monumentation of ALTA/ACSM Land Title Surveys.
It is the Board’s interpretation that the Minimum Standard Detail requirements for ALTA/ACSM Land Title Surveys cannot be met without all monuments being found or set, even if item 1 of Table A Optional Survey Responsibilities and Specification is not requested. The ALTA/ACSM Land Title Survey is considered by the Board to be a monumented land survey and a land survey plat shall be deposited if required by Section 38-51-107, C.R.S.
"If Table A Item 1 is not chosen, then an ALTA Survey is not a boundary survey per the MD regs."
Really?! An ALTA survey does not depict the property boundaries? How does that work?
Mandatory in MT, SD, ND, & ID. I concur with WA-ID Surveyor, how can we purport to "protect the public" if we don't record our surveys?
Corners are NOT required to be set in CT.
