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Comments from a "certified paralegal" who knows how to check something off a list and include plenty of quotes from the ALTA standards but has little idea what they actually mean in practice.

It is a fully paved shopping center in Tucson that has been there for 30 years. He is concerned about any wetlands delineation markers. Okay, that's piddly and I can handle that with a statement saying I did not observe any markers.

I am doing three lots within said shopping center. I have shown ties to the boundary of the overall shopping center, but the actual survey is just those three lots. He wants me to show the lot and plat information, and names of all owners, for the residential subdivision adjoining the shopping center. My thinking is that is not relevant to my survey of the three lots (which are some 200 feet from the shopping center boundary at the closest).

He wants me to show both record and measured "calls." Measured dimensions are not significantly different from record so I just showed measured. How do you feel about his use of the word "calls?" To me a call is something like, "Along the East line of the section," not a bearing and distance.

Okay, I've had a glass of wine and had my rant and feel better. I'd appreciate your feedback. The survey is for my very best client so I intend to put on my helpful Dale Carnegie hat before responding. You know how it is.


 
Posted : May 19, 2017 10:25 pm
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Very best client.

What he's asking is for additional detail. Not for you to cover up anything or turn a blind eye to anything.

Yes it may suck if adding the additional info causes your plot scale to change and you have to change text and cell sizes.

All things considered...especially the very best client part...I'd do the additional work and tell him thanks and ask where's the next shopping center I can do for ya?


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 6:15 am
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Bruce Small, post: 429196, member: 1201 wrote: He wants me to show both record and measured "calls." Measured dimensions are not significantly different from record so I just showed measured. How do you feel about his use of the word "calls?" To me a call is something like, "Along the East line of the section," not a bearing and distance.

The usage of the term "calls" familiar to me is in reference to all of the elements of a description. Calls for specific courses and distances may be properly refered to as calls of the description. Calls for adjoiner are, of course, also elements of descriptions as are calls for specific monuments.


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 7:27 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 429213, member: 3 wrote: The usage of the term "calls" familiar to me is in reference to all of the elements of a description. Calls for specific courses and distances may be properly refered to as calls of the description. Calls for adjoiner are, of course, also elements of descriptions as are calls for specific monuments.

That's exactly what I always understood it to be.B&D courses are calls. Reference to plats in a description is a call.
So I just checked Black's Law and it defines it as such too.


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 7:52 am
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Chopping_Broccoli, post: 429210, member: 9083 wrote: Very best client.

What he's asking is for additional detail. Not for you to cover up anything or turn a blind eye to anything.

Yes it may suck if adding the additional info causes your plot scale to change and you have to change text and cell sizes.

All things considered...especially the very best client part...I'd do the additional work and tell him thanks and ask where's the next shopping center I can do for ya?

I was scheduled to start their next shopping center this morning but my client has emphasized the current shopping center is most important so I'll spend today keeping the paralegal happy. It's hourly and my client will promptly pay whatever it takes so I'll suck it up and get busy. I fully understand I can't spend every day surveying in fields of flowers. Be nice, though.

It won't be all bad. When I work at home I drag the dog's bed into my office and he thinks having dad home is just wonderful, the way it is supposed to be.


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 8:14 am

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Bruce Small, post: 429218, member: 1201 wrote: Be nice, though.

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Dang; all these posts; bringing back memorizes of old songs...


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 8:18 am
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Kent McMillan, post: 429213, member: 3 wrote: The usage of the term "calls" familiar to me is in reference to all of the elements of a description. Calls for specific courses and distances may be properly refered to as calls of the description. Calls for adjoiner are, of course, also elements of descriptions as are calls for specific monuments.

I agree with Kent.


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 9:17 am
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I had a paralegal say that just because the city bought a parcel for a road widening project in fee, widened the road, and built a sidewalk and a driveway, does not mean that my client has ingress/egress rights since the warranty deed does not mention right-of-way purposes.

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Posted : May 20, 2017 9:27 am
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Bruce Small, post: 429218, member: 1201 wrote: I can't spend every day surveying in fields of flowers. Be nice, though.

& rainbows, like [USER=6369]@Deano[/USER] :


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 10:04 am
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Those requests don't sound too out of line, record information is useful, even if the distances are negligible, the residential lots are not neccisiary but it won't hurt to add them if they want, as long as you can charge for the time. I think the names of the owners is a little silly, the lot and block identifies the parcel just fine, the owners' names will quickly become irrelevant historical information.


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 10:10 am

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Going a lot faster than I thought it would, but that's probably because of Darwin's close supervision. Pit Bull and Basset Hound, and the happiest dog of all time. About seven, a rescue of course. He now has the daddy he always wanted.


 
Posted : May 20, 2017 11:30 am