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What's the best equipment to put on a boat for some underwater topo while using the Trimble GPS and controller we already have? I've done all the drop the tape, long rod, etc. This job is too big for that and water is too deep, but probably not big enough to hire a hydrographic crew, especially since we already have boats and the other stuff. Just need some kind of sonar or transducer that will shoot straight down, and upload to Survey Controller. Needing to verify existing conditions before we start dumping fill in the lake.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 11:02 am
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Try these guys...

http://seafloorsystems.com/support.html

Seafloor Systems Inc.
3113 Alhambra Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 11:04 am
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Underwater topo,eh? Best method is to be naked except for tennis shoes. Unless you are in snapping turtle country.:excruciating: :excruciating: :excruciating:


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 11:14 am
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You'd be surprised how little water is needed for a company that only does shallow water hydro. How big and how deep and how close for the shots?


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 11:16 am
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We have had good luck with this http://vexilar.com/products/index.php?prodNum=LPS-1 while running continous topo on the collector and adjusting the rod height.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 11:28 am

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I agree. Seafloor has some great solutions and John Tamplin is excellent to work with.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 11:57 am
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If you are already Trimble, the HydroLite by Seafloor is the way to go. We have one and it's a bit of a pain because we are Topcon. I think it's pretty seamless with Trimble, though. You should be up and running for about 5K which is pretty cheap for a Hydro unit.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 12:07 pm
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You can also rent the Hydrolite for $125 per day which we are about to do for a small project.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 12:28 pm
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Check out this nifty little "toy".


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 12:33 pm
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set up the T.S. on the ice, use a power auger to bore the holes and a lead sound to determine depth.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 1:14 pm

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Colleagues- On the "Theme"

We have an upcoming project to verify the cubic capacity of a series of smallish sewage lagoon ponds that are no greater in width than 30' +/-.

We don't know how much sludge there is in the ponds (lots for a starter), so it is difficult to quantify how much more capacity there would be if the sludge was gone.

Obviously it would be a piece of cake to pump the lagoons out and get in there with a rod and rubber boots (for the X/Y/Z) as we have the X/Y of all the lagoon edges and their elevations down pat.

Wold there be a piece of sonar (?) equipment that could verify the pond depth through the sludge accurately or am I too optimistic ?

Thank you,

Derek


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 1:20 pm
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Multiple frequency, different wavelengths will have different penetration through the various layers.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 1:26 pm
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Sonarmite/Hydrolite from Sea Floor Systems...

We are a dealer for them and rent them too.

EASY to use with your existing Trimble gear


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 1:59 pm
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Well...

since I can't swim, I'd drain the water, let the muck dry out, and shoot it using GPS. Then put the water back in.

Probably need some kind of permit, but you can always beg forgiveness by claiming you didn't know who to ask for permission...


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 5:11 pm
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Well...

that might cause a problem.....

This job is actually for the 1st phase of the new bridge next to the one the Delta Mariner knocked down last year


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 5:17 pm

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In the summer with a case of beer.

Or that slick remote control boat for only 70k or 90k.


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 5:54 pm
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Derek ....

google "Sludge Judge". I have one in Nome for work in the sewage lagoon there. A couple of modifications that I would make, but all in all it works pretty good.

-JD-


 
Posted : February 22, 2013 6:08 pm
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Here you go Randy, but a little place in Paducah may not like me giving away the goods. Share the knowledge.

Additional hardware is the Lowrance HDS 10 with side scan sonar. Take sonar pictures of questionable areas. Clients loved it. The Lowrance can hook up any gps unit with NMEA output. I have used Trimble. Piece of cake.

The software of choice is UNDERSEA. Takes the NMEA data from the Lowrance/GPS for direct input to laptop. The software draws the contours on the fly. Makes great maps and easy downloads of all data.

Cost $2000 for Gen 1 Lowrance fish finder and I think around $1800 for the software. Have fun.


 
Posted : February 24, 2013 9:52 am
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Have fun, yes, but check your insurance first. Years ago, when I was working for another company, we were getting ready to do a small hydro job and decided to check the insurance. Our agent said our policy wouldn't cover anything that happened while the crew was in a boat.


 
Posted : February 24, 2013 10:24 am
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Derek ....

JD-

Thank you for the lead.

Cheers,

Derek


 
Posted : February 24, 2013 11:53 am

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