A True Cul-de-sac?

Itƒ??s an offset cul-de-sac, Lot 14 may or may not be included depending upon the house position on the lot. ?????ÿ

I'm just a dumb old consumer, but I think that a cul-de -ac is a dead end street with a turnaround at the end. If it's just a cut-out on a through street, then I think that some slick developer or real estate firm is stretching the meaning of the term.

I think I'd pass on the opportunity to buy one of those houses.

Can't anyone draw straight streets anymore??ÿ Jeez.

what's a "true cul-de-sac"?

@holy-cow No.?ÿ Not since the 1990's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coving_(urban_planning)

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A true cul-de-sac would have a different sreet name, even if ir is just "Street Name" Court.

Lot 14 and 17 appear to be standard lots, lot 15 meets the definition for a cul-de-sac lot and Lot 16 is a flag lot. All would have a Chesterhill Circle address.

Interesting in that I am finishing up a survey on lots on a Chestnut Ridge Circle cul-de-sac. Eight of the lots have frontage and access from the South side and bulb, but none of the lots on the North side have access to said road. They share a common private driveway, North up the hill and to the rear the homes. Rather steep area. I was at a rear, top of ridge property corner and lost my balance, tumbling head first two full flips down the hill. A neighbor saw what happened drove me around to the top, and I walked back to the corner. Neighbor repeatedly called my cell phone as I slid back down the hill on my butt looking for it in 3' tall vegetation.

Paul in PA

Posted by: @field-dog

cul-de-sac

mid 18th century (originally in anatomy): French, literally ƒ??bottom of a sackƒ??.

So there you go; depending on how hot it is, how far down is the bottom...

What constitutes a cul-de-sac will be dictated by your local ordinances/regulations. Anything said on here from people in different areas will likely not be applicable (but still interesting).?ÿ

@dougie?ÿ

I'm aware of the anatomical definition. Leave it to surveyors to apply it to something else!

@aliquot?ÿ

I wasn't aware of any such formality in naming such a thing. I would just call it a "bump out." I think it was created to give those homeowners involved a feeling of privacy.

Posted by: @mathteacher

I think I'd pass on the opportunity to buy one of those houses

The frontage for lot 16 is kind of small, if that's what bothers you.

@field-dog?ÿ

I once drew up an optional layout for a subdivision with a long, slightly curved street with a cul-de-sac at the end.?ÿ My co-workers had some colorful, anatomical names for the street and subdivision.

@flga-2-2?ÿ

That sounds reasonable to me, considering the radius point is offset from the centerline.

@aliquot It's been a while since I put my Land Planner Hat on, but the zoning/subdivision ordinance term of art around here for those are "eyebrows".

@field-dog?ÿ

That's the problem, the only formal naming you will find is in local ordinances, and that is the only place it matters. The definitions used in PA will not be applicable to Maine...

@james-fleming

I have seen the term "eyebrow' applied to a half cul-de-sac, but this is more than that.?ÿ

@james-fleming?ÿ

That's very interesting, thank you.

@richard-imrie The way I've seen it done is you build a template based on the average house building pad envelope for the site. Then you offset & connect the envelope based on the front/rear side setbacks. Add a line for half the right-of-way width.?ÿ Now you just spend some time trying to jam as many of these on the site as you can with no overlap.

Rather than designing the roads first, connecting the right-of-way "lollipops" give you the starting point for the road centerlines.

The Wikipedia article is an artfully disguised advertisement for LandMentor software.?ÿ I'm surprised that it's gotten by the Wikipedia editors.