This is Sect. 1 T4S, R69W, 6th PM as platted in 1862. My question is as follows: can Point A be called a sixteenth corner? Is Point B a sixty-fourth corner? How would you mark the cap at Point B?
Something to ponder over the weekend. Have a great one!
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I don't think I've ever seen GL's with identical numbers in the same section before. I suppose anything is possible. If the patent was for GL I would use GL in the call. (NE cor S half GL1 of the NE Quarter) If the patent was alquot part I would use that in the call. Update: Looks like Lots was used in the patent
The 1973 Manual calls them 1/16th. corners on elongated sections...
> This is Sect. 1 T4S, R69W, 6th PM as platted in 1862. My question is as follows: can Point A be called a sixteenth corner? Is Point B a sixty-fourth corner? How would you mark the cap at Point B?
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If showing it on a plat (that other surveyors would reference) I would call them the 1/16 and 1/64th.
If calling on a deed (or other document referenced by title insurance, lawyers, mortgage companies...the "SE corner of the north half of lot x of the NE1/4" etc...or the patent calls...
[sarcasm]If calling them here in Arkansas (for the AGIO's GIS statewide cadestre) I would call them the SE PROPERTY CORNER OF PARCEL #BR549 AS SHOWN ON THE COUNTY ASSESSOR COMPUTER AIDED MAPPING PROGRAM (CAMP) POLYGON PER AGIO CADASTRE...and my plat would NEVER have a copyright or limit it's use by the public...realtors...GIS analysts...or others who would used my survey to further their profits...and don't forget the certified 'accurate' description and SPC coordinates...or the convergence angle between true north and SPC grid...[/sarcasm]
DDSMo.O
I call it a table...you call it a desk...but it may be a chair in the Courts' eye
> This is Sect. 1 T4S, R69W, 6th PM as platted in 1862. My question is as follows: can Point A be called a sixteenth corner? Is Point B a sixty-fourth corner? How would you mark the cap at Point B?
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> Something to ponder over the weekend. Have a great one!
Doyle called Point A the sixteenth, and he was like a survey god.
"can Point A be called a sixteenth corner?" No, it’s not an aliquot part of the section.
"Is Point B a sixty-fourth corner?" No, see above
"How would you mark the cap at Point B?" The NE cor of the S1/2 of gov’t lot 1 lying North of the SE1/4 of sec blah blah…. (just my 0.04')
Have a great weekend! B-)
Duplicate lot numbers
There are sections in Tucson with duplicate government lot numbers. Some were surveyed as part of the military reservation, and the others were surveyed in the usual manner. Both have GL1 and GL2, etc.
Point A is a 1/16th corner.
Point B is a 1/64th corner.
Why not a Lot corner as per patent?
It is a 1/16th corner by survey and protraction.
BLM does not set these as lot corners, only as 1/16 corners.
Keith
Rubrew
This may be of some help.
Rubrew
Would we stretch or shrink this example to fit closing or fractional sections?...sections with platted lots? For example would the north half of lot one of the SW 1/4 of section 31 (lot one platted to look kinda like the East half of the SW1/4) be the same as the NE1/4 SW/4 of Section 31? Not to mention the Arkansas River...
A nice weekend here in Little Rock...temps to be in the 70's
DDSM
Rubrew
My take is, that even though these may be a lot corner, the corner marking designation remains the same.
Yeah it would be interesting to know, When a section is originally surveyed do these 1/16th and 1/64th get set?
And if they were not set by the original BLM surveyors, or contractor for the BLM, can a land surveyor in private practice set these corners in their correct place, and then call them 1/16th or 1/64th corners?
If these corners were not set originally by the BLM can a land surveyor in private practice write a legal description of the property and call for these monuments as
1/16th or 1/64th, or would the description of the fractional parcel have to commence from an ORIGINAL BLM monument ?
And if they were not set by the original BLM surveyors, or contractor for the BLM, can a land surveyor in private practice set these corners in their correct place, and then call them 1/16th or 1/64th corners?
Yes, of course you can. I do it all the time.
> Yes, of course you can. I do it all the time.
[sarcasm]And of course if you didn't set them perfectly, I'm gonna fix them for you.[/sarcasm]
Okay, Thanks Moe.
Indeed he did.
Thanks everyone for your rapid responses. I hope no one took time out of their weekend for it.
It looks like we will go with 16th and 1/64th corner.
I was surprised that there was little comment on the odd lotting. Perhaps the rules were different in 1862 as many of the townships around Denver are lotted this in this fashion.
Thanks again!
