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The title subject is misleading and I cannot edit it, the software is Carlson Survey

Where do I find the setting to make Carlson Survey (sometimes called Intellicad) stop opening up a empty Drawing1 when I open the named drawing I'm working on?


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 6:05 am
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AutoCAD based products also do that. There is no way to stop it. That's just how it works.


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 8:28 am
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Autocad can be stopped, Intellicad cannot. I just asked Carlson Support about this a couple off weeks ago.


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 11:17 am
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Just A. Surveyor, post: 450418, member: 12855 wrote: The title subject is misleading and I cannot edit it, the software is Carlson Survey

Where do I find the setting to make Carlson Survey (sometimes called Intellicad) stop opening up a empty Drawing1 when I open the named drawing I'm working on?

Why?

Either you select a specific drawing and it will start your CAD program as a part of startup.

OR

You can select that your CAD program open a specific framework base program, and you can have quite a list if you like.

Carlson assumes that if you start Carlson you want to begin by inputting points to turn it into a project, therefore that Drawing1 contains point layers. Seems kind of senseless to open a CAD drawing program without a drawing. I have never had a problem with Drawing1 in 30 years if I start Carlson without specifying a drawing. Once Carlson is open I select File" "Open" and can browse around to what I want, either an already created drawing or a template for a new drawing. Once I do that Drawing1 disappears and I do not have to do anything with it.

I however do not have Intellicad so I may not understand your problem. What is your exact sequence in opening an existing drawing?

Paul in PA


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 12:06 pm
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Stephen Ward, post: 450479, member: 1206 wrote: Autocad can be stopped, Intellicad cannot

Autocad cannot be stopped; you can only hope to contain it. 😉


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 12:19 pm

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James Fleming, post: 450495, member: 136 wrote: Autocad cannot be stopped; you can only hope to contain it. 😉

For a monthly fee of course.


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 1:27 pm
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Command Line: startup

Then select option: 2


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 1:36 pm
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Slight thread "borrow" or outright "theft?"

I am getting ready to upgrade from Carlson Survey 14 (ACAD) to CArlson Survey 2018 (IntelliCAD). I have been told that I won't notice a difference between the ACAD Ver and the Intellicad Ver. Does anyone have an opinion on that?

Thanks,


 
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I started using Carlson 2015 I think it was a late 7.x release now on 2018 it with 8.3 the stability of intellicad had increased dramatically in 3 years.


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 1:46 pm
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The new 2018 has a couple bugs that they're working on with f2f and for some reason I cannot get a distance from a 3d point to a 2d arc or 2d polyline arc segment. A patch was sent out that was preventing points being written to a crd file. I haven't gotten anything to fix these issues so I have had to drop back to 2017 Intellicad 8.2


 
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foggyidea, post: 450520, member: 155 wrote: Slight thread "borrow" or outright "theft?"

I am getting ready to upgrade from Carlson Survey 14 (ACAD) to CArlson Survey 2018 (IntelliCAD). I have been told that I won't notice a difference between the ACAD Ver and the Intellicad Ver. Does anyone have an opinion on that?

Thanks,

There are some differences in the commands, so you will notice things don't work quite the way you expect on occasion, but you will adapt fairly quickly. For instance: Rotation from a Reference direction is a Rotation from a Base direction in ICAD. In the Options Dialog, the check box turns ON the running osnaps in ACAD, it turns them OFF in ICAD. The Layer States in ICAD are based on the old style of layer states. I don't know if you will be able to use the layer states saved in an ACAD drawing. When I open an ICAD drawing from AutoCAD and go into the layer states dialog, it prompts me to convert them. In ICAD the command alias CO brings up some sort of color book command, unless you redefine it to bring up COPY (that one drove me nucking futs for a while).


 
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foggyidea, post: 450520, member: 155 wrote: Slight thread "borrow" or outright "theft?"

I am getting ready to upgrade from Carlson Survey 14 (ACAD) to CArlson Survey 2018 (IntelliCAD). I have been told that I won't notice a difference between the ACAD Ver and the Intellicad Ver. Does anyone have an opinion on that?

Thanks,

Hey Don, Are you using the standalone or AutoCAD 14 with Carlson Survey? You will see a couple of differences between AutoCAD14 and IntelliCAD. Some are for the good. You will see Many differences between the Standalone and IntelliCAD. AutoDesk strips out several functions in the engine used for the standalone version and many of the keyboard commands are not set by AutoDesk or Carlson. I use both.
Thadd


 
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Paul in PA, post: 450494, member: 236 wrote: Why?

Either you select a specific drawing and it will start your CAD program as a part of startup.

OR

You can select that your CAD program open a specific framework base program, and you can have quite a list if you like.

Carlson assumes that if you start Carlson you want to begin by inputting points to turn it into a project, therefore that Drawing1 contains point layers. Seems kind of senseless to open a CAD drawing program without a drawing. I have never had a problem with Drawing1 in 30 years if I start Carlson without specifying a drawing. Once Carlson is open I select File" "Open" and can browse around to what I want, either an already created drawing or a template for a new drawing. Once I do that Drawing1 disappears and I do not have to do anything with it.

I however do not have Intellicad so I may not understand your problem. What is your exact sequence in opening an existing drawing?

Paul in PA

Because even if I select a specific drawing it still opens a clean Drawing1 in another tab and I don't want that. And I don't care how you do it up north If I open XYZ.dwg I don't want drawing1.dwg also.


 
Posted : October 11, 2017 5:20 pm
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I've never been the one to double click on a drawing to open and begin work.
In the original Carlson, that did not always mean that all your tools loaded and were there when you wanted them.
I learned that it was necessary to have drawing1.dwg to be the opening page and to make it your template that contains all the elements that you have personalized and want to begin a new drawing.
If your purpose is to open an old drawing and continue to work on, then open the new drawing and continue.


 
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spledeus, post: 450547, member: 3579 wrote: Hey Don, Are you using the standalone or AutoCAD 14 with Carlson Survey? You will see a couple of differences between AutoCAD14 and IntelliCAD. Some are for the good. You will see Many differences between the Standalone and IntelliCAD. AutoDesk strips out several functions in the engine used for the standalone version and many of the keyboard commands are not set by AutoDesk or Carlson. I use both.
Thadd

Thadd, I have been running Carlson stand alone ACAD 2014, and previously it's always been the stand alone survey, with ACAD. But for $1,000, I'll switch to IntelliCAD.... I believe that the ACAD ver is $1,000 more than the IntelliCAD....


 
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foggyidea, post: 450640, member: 155 wrote: Th

Thadd, I have been running Carlson stand alone ACAD 2014, and previously it's always been the stand alone survey, with ACAD. But for $1,000, I'll switch to IntelliCAD.... I believe that the ACAD ver is $1,000 more than the IntelliCAD....

The standalone has an AutoCAD engine that is stripped down.
I think IntelliCAD is better than the standalone.


 
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Just A. Surveyor, post: 450418, member: 12855 wrote: The title subject is misleading and I cannot edit it, the software is Carlson Survey

Where do I find the setting to make Carlson Survey (sometimes called Intellicad) stop opening up a empty Drawing1 when I open the named drawing I'm working on?

When launching the Carlson application via its start-up icon, the icon launches the underlying CAD engine (e.g. IntelliCAD or AutoCAD as the case might be). The CAD engine will normally open a default/empty drawing (document) much like Notepad, Word, Excel, PowerPoint, etc, will open their respective document types presuming that you intend to work in a given file. The short answer is, I don't believe there is a setting that suppresses the automatic loading/launching of Drawing1.dwg.


 
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This too annoyed me, as I never had any use for Drawing1, ever. There is a solution that will automatically close this drawing immediately at startup, it requires manual implementation but works for IntelliCAD and AutoCAD.

Desktop shortcuts can have startup switches in the shortcut properties, which can be used to run a script at start-up. The steps below are a general guideline that may need to be tweaked a bit depending on your situation:

1. Open Notepad and create a new file. In this file you just need to copy and paste the line below:
[PRE](if (= (getvar "DBMOD") 0) (command "_CLOSE") (command "_CLOSE" "N"))[/PRE]
a.) Have seen it where it actually works better with just the below, for some strange reason the option above failed:
[PRE](command "_CLOSE")[/PRE]
2. Save the file as CLOSE.SCR and close Notepad.
3. Copy this file to the same folder as the program EXE file, for example icad.exe would be somewhere under C:Program Files......icad.exe
4. On your desktop find the shortcut to the program, right-click and select Properties
5. Add the following at the end of the Target field:
[PRE] /b close[/PRE]
a.) For example the entire line will look similar to:
[PRE]"C:Program Files......icad.exe" /b close[/PRE]
6. Pick Apply

Run your program from the edited shortcut, the Drawing1 should be closed first thing. I have found this to be a reliable method to remove the annoyance.


 
Posted : October 12, 2017 10:49 pm