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We have several data recorders running Carlson Surve CE(Allegro, Leica CS15's, Carlson Surveyor). Recently one of our Allegros started to give us problems with regards to the field data recorded. When using set collection, closing the horizon we have always used STORE RAW DATA ONLY to add the observation for a known point. Resently it started assigning the next avalible number to the point in the raw file regardless of the on screen choice.

Anyone have any thoughts what might be causing it? I am sure it is just a setting somewhere that I am overlooking.

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Posted : July 28, 2015 8:58 am
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smorneau, post: 329401, member: 8067 wrote: We have several data recorders running Carlson Surve CE(Allegro, Leica CS15's, Carlson Surveyor). Recently one of our Allegros started to give us problems with regards to the field data recorded. When using set collection, closing the horizon we have always used STORE RAW DATA ONLY to add the observation for a known point. Resently it started assigning the next avalible number to the point in the raw file regardless of the on screen choice.

Anyone have any thoughts what might be causing it? I am sure it is just a setting somewhere that I am overlooking.

Thanks

If a new point is populating the field, I don't think "store raw data only" even appears, does it? Only when you over write the new point with the known point. Are you saying that it appears in the data file as an observation, even though you've changed it in the data collector?


 
Posted : July 28, 2015 6:03 pm
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Yes, when you do a set collection you normally have the option to store raw data only when observing a point that is already in the crd file. Very helpful on open ended traverses using least square adjustments.


 
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smorneau, post: 329490, member: 8067 wrote: Yes, when you do a set collection you normally have the option to store raw data only when observing a point that is already in the crd file. Very helpful on open ended traverses using least square adjustments.

Yes, I understand that; I use it often. But it sounds like you're saying that the new point number get's written to the file, regardless of what is in the DC. If you mean that the field get's populated with a new point number, yes, that's my experience too, but if you simply put the previous number in (the one you want the redundant observation on), and press Store Raw Data Only, you should get THAT point number's data in the file.


 
Posted : July 28, 2015 7:01 pm
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rfc, post: 329494, member: 8882 wrote: Yes, I understand that; I use it often. But it sounds like you're saying that the new point number get's written to the file, regardless of what is in the DC.

Yes, regardless of what I put in the point number field it writes to the raw with the next available point number. It is only doing it with one of the data recorders. All the others write to the raw correctly. It has been a problem, I have been editing the crews and saw the problem. I then took it to the field yesterday and ran a traverse with it myself so I could eliminate the possibility of procedural errors by the crew. I got the same results.


 
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smorneau, post: 329496, member: 8067 wrote: Yes, regardless of what I put in the point number field it writes to the raw with the next available point number. It is only doing it with one of the data recorders. All the others write to the raw correctly. It has been a problem, I have been editing the crews and saw the problem. I then took it to the field yesterday and ran a traverse with it myself so I could eliminate the possibility of procedural errors by the crew. I got the same results.

Yeow! I'm perplexed. Perhaps someone else here has some ideas or perhaps Carlson can weigh in.


 
Posted : July 28, 2015 7:36 pm
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I was hoping I was just missing something easy and not have to call Carlson support.


 
Posted : July 29, 2015 5:07 pm
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smorneau, post: 329596, member: 8067 wrote: I was hoping I was just missing something easy and not have to call Carlson support.

I tried this, this past weekend, and see that the point number did indeed increment by itself. I can't confirm that changing it to the previous point number and clicking "store raw data only" resulted in the wrong point number being recorded. I don't see how it could, as "store raw data only" is only a choice if it already has the point in either the regular file or the control file.

I wish someone more knowledgeable about how SurvCE works could weigh in.


 
Posted : August 4, 2015 7:53 am