They are going to an annual fee of at least 140 per month.
I hope Intellicad is getting more stable. Can anyone enlighten me about adequacy of Intellicad as a replacement for AutoCAD?
From what my partner told me today...its gonna be $220 per desktop per month for C3D.
Frank Willis, post: 326781, member: 472 wrote: They are going to an annual fee of at least 140 per month.
I hope Intellicad is getting more stable. Can anyone enlighten me about adequacy of Intellicad as a replacement for AutoCAD?
My short-lived experience with CMS IntelliCAD a couple of years ago was disappointing, partly because I found the UI a bit clunkier than AutoCAD, but mostly because the LISP implementation was unworkable for me. I rely on a host of AutoLISP functions in my daily work, and IntelliCAD didn't cut it. (I've been told that the latest release of IntelliCAD is much better, but I have no experience with it.)
BricsCAD, on the other hand, has been a joy to use. The UI is very crisp, and the LISP implementation superb. I'm happily doing all of my CAD work with the standard version, and highly recommend it.
Like Jim, Bricscad is sweet.
I have nothing but misery with IntelliCad driven MsCad 2015.
It still doesn't handle geotiffs well, it's Cad is certainly an improvement on previous, but it crashes at times.
Overall not a good combination.
Not sure how Carlson handles IntelliCad?
If Bricscad didn't run so well on same computer I'd be querying my setup. Win 7 Pro, 64 bit.
I don't use the Intellicad version of Carlson, but I am reading some pretty good reviews from users on the Carlson web site and the guys that use it locally almost have me convinced to give it a shot.
It's all about the "Benjamin's" and the increased costs and license structure of AutoCAD will be unbearable for most firms. I have heard of higher monthly costs than those quoted here. If that extra costs applies to my Carlson Survey OEM package, a change, one way or another, will HAVE to be made.
Autodesk is going to price themselves out of the market if they are not careful, and they don't seem to give a hoot about that possibility. They have their users over a barrel and now they want to snatch their pants down and get naughty.
21.7 working days per month x 3 hours per day = 65hrs/month
$220/65hrs = $3.40 per hour. I think I will leave my scale and T-square in the bull pen.
I would prefer to pay less, but quite frankly, I've been getting buy on the cheap for a lot of years. My ROI is pretty good.
Steve
I use the IntelliCAD version of Carlson 2013 and I don't miss AutoCAD a bit. It was a little bit of an adjustment switching, but not bad.
I'm with Bow-Tie. Carlson 2013 with IntelliCAD has been good. A couple of quirks (small things like not being able to see edits on screen to edit text until after the text has been edited, and occasionally not seeing dynamic text on screen until it is entered) but overall a very productive solution for our application.
I've been using Carlson w/Intellicad for over 3 years now. I like it a lot and the support Carlson gives is incredible. I use it for boundary, topo and construction surveying. I also do a fair amount of engneering design with it. I'm very happy with its performance for the tasks I've used it for
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Does Bricscad align images and georeference them?
Does it produce a DWG that is fully compatible with ACAD, without problems like layer names, symbols, etc?
What cogo and dtm packages do you recommend for bricscad?
Frank Willis, post: 326851, member: 472 wrote: Does Bricscad align images and georeference them?
An image with a world file will be placed and scaled correctly.
Does it produce a DWG that is fully compatible with ACAD, without problems like layer names, symbols, etc?
I haven't exhaustively tested this, but have had no complaints from clients or design team members.
What cogo and dtm packages do you recommend for bricscad?
I use custom software, so have so experience with any add-in packages.
Frank Willis, post: 326781, member: 472 wrote: They are going to an annual fee of at least 140 per month.
I hope Intellicad is getting more stable. Can anyone enlighten me about adequacy of Intellicad as a replacement for AutoCAD?
I have been using Carlson Civil, Survey, Hydro and GIS modules with IntelliCad for 5 years now. We currently are using the 2015 versions and while it isn't Acad, it works just fine for me. I do boundary, topo, construction layout and civil design for roads and mass grading. I don't have any issues with the software.
And Carlson's Technical Support is the best I have experienced in 35 years. If I have a question on a routine and either call them or send them a email, I get a response in a hour or less. If I have a Defcon 3 issue and need to talk to someone like RIGHT NOW, they are right there to help me out and talk me off the ledge.
We had C3D for 6 months and dumped it in favor of Carlson. The learning curve is real short. We design alot of road reconstruction projects and while these are not freeways, they do require the attention to detail. We run preliminary topo on the cooridor, create surfaces and new alignments and all our files are set up for machine control. Some of our local contractors are using the Carlson Machine Control package so they have no problems reading our .dwg files into their system.
If I was picking a replacement software for AutoCad and C3D, I would pick Carlson again. IT is the best bang for my buck.
That's my 0.02$ worth.
We also have used Carlson since their earliest days. It is by far the best for us.
On my last ACAD maintenance subscription renewal they gave me the option to add Civil 3D at a ridiculously low price, which was a no-brainer to do, since I wanted to try it. I tried it and did not like it, and I never used it much. Stayed with Carlson.
When my annual maintenance subscription came around, my annual fee more than doubled because of me having civil 3d. I told them I did not want civil 3d and wanted to remove it. They said to remove from it my costly maintenance subscription, I'd have to cancel my entire license and buy a new seat of autocad. I don't think that is fair. I'd certainly not have done it if I had known that was going to happen.
Frank Willis, post: 326781, member: 472 wrote: They are going to an annual fee of at least 140 per month...
I'm not sure this new pricing structure is all bad. For one, if you currently have copies on subscription you can continue as before. Two, if you need more copies, you pay more per month but don't have to capitalize the initial purchase. Three, if you find you don't need copies for awhile you can drop them.
Mark Mayer, post: 326929, member: 424 wrote: Three, if you find you don't need copies for awhile you can drop them.
That's what I did -- after buying BricsCAD, I found that I didn't need AutoCAD anymore!
Jim,
Do you have to deliver any finished work to people in DWG format? Are they satisfied with it being converted from Bricscad?
Frank Willis, post: 326960, member: 472 wrote: Do you have to deliver any finished work to people in DWG format? Are they satisfied with it being converted from Bricscad?
Regularly. Although I expect that a BricsCAD DWG generates a "not invented here" sort of message when opened in AutoCAD, I've not had any complaints (or even comments) on DWG deliverables.
DownUnder I've never had anyone query my dwg.
Only when it's too late a version for them.
If anyone is contemplating and need serious answers there's a great bunch of helpfulness at thehttps://www.bricsys.com/common/support/forumtopics.jsp?forum=10&apos ;"> Bricscad forum site.
You don't actually convert. Bricscad file format is dwg.
DOTSOFT might drop by and make comment. He writes applications for both Bricscad and AutoMap.
Jim Frame, post: 326962, member: 10 wrote: Regularly. Although I expect that a BricsCAD DWG generates a "not invented here" sort of message when opened in AutoCAD, I've not had any complaints (or even comments) on DWG deliverables.
what platform do you run on?
https://www.bricsys.com/en_INTL/bricscad/comparison/
the Linux version has appeal for me, Acad is the only reason I ever use Windows.
Peter Ehlert, post: 326990, member: 60 wrote: what platform do you run on?
Win7 64-bit. I have no experience with the Linux version, so can't comment on it.