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(@therock003)
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Since i have base and rover parameters saved inside the controller software, why do i need to connect via bluetooth to the base each time i want to start a new project?

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 10:10 am
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Thats funny!
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Posted : 01/09/2017 10:12 am
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Consider this. If the base is already set up and running when you arrive on site (perhaps with a second rover, or perhaps someone in the area has a permanent base station set up) you don't have to connect your dc to the base in order to get your Rover working. And if you had a second dc you could use it to start the base, use your first on the rover, and you wouldn't have to connect the rover dc to the base.

You just use the dc you have to start the base. There is no magic hand off that occurs.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 11:14 am
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therock003, post: 444516, member: 12282 wrote: Since i have base and rover parameters saved inside the controller software, why do i need to connect via bluetooth to the base each time i want to start a new project?

What hardware and software are you using?

Is this a construction project? Are working exclusively on the same site every day? If yes to both these questions, then you do not need connect to your base each time. Just be certain to check into a control everday with the Rover.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 11:24 am
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Trimble R8-S with Survey Pro. I will be working on 2-3 different locations this weekend and i will have to checkin at the base each time i need to start a new project.

Except if i create 3 different projects at the base prior and initialise them and then proceed to open corresponding project on site

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:13 pm
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Are you setting a base station up or are these network corrections? Are you moving the base station to different sites or is it staying in the same spot for all 3 sites?

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:29 pm
(@scotland)
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If you are using the same base location for 3 projects (locations or jobs) then you don't have to re-start the base. But if you are moving the base for each project, then yes you have to re-start the base at each location. You don't have to use the data collector though. If you turn it on it should start taking static data and transmitting RTK (if you have it setup that way). You have too many unknowns to give you a good explanation.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:33 pm
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Sorry guys. Base station is not moving it is always operating on the same fixed point locarion and i am not using any netowrk corrections. Base and rover are always communicating via radio frequency

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 12:46 pm
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When you get to the next job you should be able to just "Start Survey" then use the rover and don't reset the base it is already broadcasting corrections.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 1:01 pm
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You shouldn't ever have to do anything at the base once it's going, you could work an infinite number of jobs without going to the base, one thing you do have to be careful about is point #'s in each job. Make sure each job has the correct # for the base.

There are community base stations, the users have no physical access to them, but they can use them anytime as long as they have the correct frequency in their radio, there is one just a few miles from my current location. I can connect to it if I want, but I don't go there, don't touch it, don't start or stop it.

 
Posted : 01/09/2017 2:06 pm
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Once the base is running go to set rover on the survey menu then pick "Remote Base". That is how I get my second rover running,
You will have to set the projection when you create the new project on the rover. It will prompt you "use the previous projection" if you are using the same data collector when you create a new job. I don't know what version you ate using, I am using 4.7

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 6:39 am
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If I remember correctly that all changed after 5.0 but I haven't used a base in a while

 
Posted : 02/09/2017 8:06 am
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The base is already set up to log static once started but how can i set it to automatically send rtk corrections at startup so i dont have to initialise at the base each time.

I tried a test and it failed. I closed the base and reopened it i then started a new project and i connect directly to the rover and started a survey. It showed autonomous position for thw rover and could not find a base setup.

 
Posted : 03/09/2017 4:45 am
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therock003, post: 444857, member: 12282 wrote: The base is already set up to log static once started but how can i set it to automatically send rtk corrections at startup so i dont have to initialise at the base each time.

I tried a test and it failed. I closed the base and reopened it i then started a new project and i connect directly to the rover and started a survey. It showed autonomous position for the rover and could not find a base setup.

If you created a new project, you will need to "set the base" by assigning LLH to the NEZ within your selected projection.

 
Posted : 06/09/2017 8:05 pm
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What i mean is, i have set the base on a known location, but i take the unit on and off, and not leave it on to operate continously. I only place it when i need to work on a project.

I am looking for a way that when i put my unit on the base, i only have to power it, and not have to initialise via the controller each time.

Can i enable something via a power up file in trimble gps configuration utility, so besides logging static when powered it also starts broadcastinf corrections, without having to initialise via controller?

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:28 am
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Not sure why this is a question with Trimble gear. With Topcon you simply turn on the base to restart rtk, then press green button 3x to start static log.

Can also can figure it to always log static when on, so no need for step two.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:42 am
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Well if i understand this right
In carlson Surve Ce i can switch between projects/jobs on the same site in about 5 seconds
In fact i create jobs sometimes for 5 shots
just have to toggle on USE last localization

If i go to a new site
I have to do the here (which i save to this_site.ref file) in DC and now in base as well
localize and survey away.

If i go back to the old site
load Old_site.ref to the base from DC ie connected by blue tooth to base i usual do this while driving to old site
Mag mount base to old base position
load old localization
survey away.

Usually / always have to connect to the base for the first time on new site for generate the New_site.ref
file created by the HERE.
Or reload to base receiver a stored Here site.ref file

Never set up over a control point just mag mount to anything steel with good sky

Note steel electrical cover plate screwed down to 4*4 post

Attached files

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 11:38 am
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therock003, post: 445478, member: 12282 wrote: What i mean is, i have set the base on a known location, but i take the unit on and off, and not leave it on to operate continously. I only place it when i need to work on a project.

I am looking for a way that when i put my unit on the base, i only have to power it, and not have to initialise via the controller each time.

Can i enable something via a power up file in trimble gps configuration utility, so besides logging static when powered it also starts broadcastinf corrections, without having to initialise via controller?

I have a similar setup as you. I have a fixed location on my garage that I put the GPS antenna on and start the receiver on the fixed known point. I don't know of a way to start up the receiver without using the data collector. You can just power on the unit and on my trimble unit, it starts broadcasting and taking static data. Only problem is it isn't on a fixed position but on the autonomous position. I have a file in the DC called control. I open it and quickly start the base on the fixed position. Maybe someone else has a way to use a config file to do what you want.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 12:38 pm
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I'm using Topcon gear with Survey Pro so this may or may not apply. If I set my base one day, and come back the next day and set up on the same point and the EXACT same height, it will brodcast that position from the previous day. It doesn't matter what job I have open, I can Start Survey and get the data from the base and start working.

Now if I have had the base setup on a different point on another job, I have to hook up to the base with bluetooth and restart it and tell it what point I'm on and the height.

I'm not sure why this is an issue, I'm not sure how long it takes me to get the base started with the data collector, but I'd say less than 3 minutes.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 1:33 pm
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I'm assuming your running several jobs from the same base. I'm doing the same as David, Topcon with SurveyPro.

therock003, post: 444857, member: 12282 wrote: I tried a test and it failed. I closed the base and reopened it i then started a new project and i connect directly to the rover and started a survey. It showed autonomous position for thw rover and could not find a base setup.

If you stop the base from broadcasting your not going to get corrections. Once you set the base and it is broadcasting, start a new job and set the rover only, SurveyPro will know you have no base and will give you base options, use the remote base, it will find the base broadcasting and will set it. The next day you set up the base it should still be broadcasting that position. Sometimes if I know it's going to be a long day, I shut off the base for lunch to conserve battery and just turn it back on after lunch. Of course on different jobs with different base locations you will need to set the base again.
You need to be more specific as to your setup.
It should work on a one location base.

 
Posted : 07/09/2017 3:56 pm
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