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(@harold)
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My son has a Javad. ?ÿI went with him in the field a few times. One field technique improvement suggestion that I made for long-time point occupation was to use a standard prism pole with a bipod. ?ÿI think Javad now makes a bipod for their short pole. ?ÿStart the field measurement with a steady position, walk away, and let it do its thing. ?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/05/2019 4:54 am
(@jim-frame)
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One field technique improvement suggestion that I made for long-time point occupation was to use a standard prism pole with a bipod.

That's SOP for me.?ÿ I tried the Javad monopole when I first got the receiver, but found the point too fat (couldn't see where I was placing it) and it just didn't have a robust enough feel for my taste.?ÿ I quickly switched to a Seco carbon-fiber pole with bipod and Leica-style quick release, and have been happy with that arrangement ever since.

I believe the monopole has been improved since I bought my system in 2014, but I haven't actually seen one of the newer ones.

 
Posted : 30/05/2019 5:03 am
(@tom-bushelman)
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I received what is probably the latest and greatest in the collapsible monopole and I love it because of its compactness.?ÿ I can collapse it down to about 15" long for traveling through dense brush then abra cadabra, full length again.?ÿ Chrisnik (Zaenkert Surveying Essentials) has a bipod that is nicely rounded to not crush your expensive rods and it does fit the monopole nicely.?ÿ If one needs more height, a standard rod is a better option for that but I rarely care about elevation doing mostly boundary work and the very adjustable monopole allows me to get shots down low, finding the spot of least multipath resistance sometimes.?ÿ ?ÿAnother feature I find refreshing in the monopole is that it has no magnetic signature.?ÿ This definitely helps with the metal detector and I am making this up but it may help with the internal compass that is supposed to be calibrated at least three feet away from anything metal.

?ÿ ?ÿEarlier this week I was staking out clearing limits in very thick brush and did not clear a single foot of traverse line.?ÿ I will still keep my brush axe sharp just in case ?????ÿ

 
Posted : 30/05/2019 9:58 am
(@frozennorth)
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Has anyone used the Triumph 2 as a network rover, along with the J Field app on a smartphone??ÿ Pretty attractive price point.?ÿ I'm thinking about getting one.

 
Posted : 30/05/2019 10:16 am
(@jim-frame)
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I can collapse it down to about 15" long for traveling through dense brush then abra cadabra, full length again.

I can see its usefulness in situations where you have to pack everything on your person and navigate through difficult terrain.?ÿ Most of my work is urban/suburban, and I only use RTK for control, so the larger rod/bipod is a better solution for me.

 
Posted : 30/05/2019 3:26 pm
(@tom-bushelman)
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I learned a lesson on where not to set a base over the last two days.  I set up over a corner pin, previously located with an S6, because it is a solid location geometrically with good sky.  I was not getting the very quick fixes in brush like I have become accustomed to.  I was crushed.  Lo and behold, on stopping the base and downloading the base data, that also went very, very slowly.  I finally made the Mr. Obvious connection as I was breaking it down and casually read the High Voltage sign on the pedestal right behind the pin.  The GNSS units are very sensitive, being calibrated in an anechoic chamber, and I'm feel fairly sure that I shot my own foot with that setup.  There are new things for me to consider with this fancy technology.  Only one time have I ever gotten electrical interference with total station surveying.

 
Posted : 31/05/2019 6:20 am
(@jerry-attrick)
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Froze,

I have used the T2 as a static receiver with the IOS version of Javad Mobile Tools. Works great. I understand that you can run the T2 in RTK mode from JMT, but I have yet to try it. I use the LS when I need to do either network or my own RTK. 

I have used the T2 as a network rover with my Calrson RT3. Works pretty well.

JA, PLS SoCal

 
Posted : 31/05/2019 9:46 am
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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Electrically noisy places, don't work well with GPS. Once upon a time, I set my base on a hill, near a cluster of radio towers.

I wound up moving my base to the valley floor, trying to escape all the radio racket.

Funny how things change. We used to look for clear line of sight. Now we look for clear channels, and open sky for the base.

N

 
Posted : 01/06/2019 7:55 am
(@jack-chiles)
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Yeah and attorneys charge $400 per hour.

 
Posted : 09/06/2019 11:00 am
(@loyal)
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$400 per hour?

The attorney that I liked to work with charged $500 an hour, and that was 20 years ago.

Loyal

 
Posted : 09/06/2019 11:29 am
(@a-harris)
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I tell my clients constantly that it will cost them more for me to clear brush by hand along the boundaries around their ranches and tree forests than it will cost to hire a dozer with brush blade plus allowing me to guide them around the entire ranch in one or two days and afterward it will be clear enough for them to follow with a tractor and trailer to build fence.

Also, all of us will feel better at the end of each day and they, the client, will be that far ahead with their plans.

Moral of this, it is going to cost about the same in the end, so why not just do it the best way the first time.

0.02

 
Posted : 09/06/2019 2:06 pm
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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Kinda funny. I occurs to me that the original poster was feeling great... New gear. Then someone (friendly) began throwing sticks "PLEASE tell me that you mean it will increase your billing."

Well, I think a Javad user should charge more than any other brand.

It's worth it.

I used trajectory today. Incredible. Users will know what it means...

N

 
Posted : 12/06/2019 3:35 pm
(@cameron-watson-pls)
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Well, I think a Javad user should charge more than any other brand.

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This is the first complaint I've heard about Javad's batteries...and from Nate no less.?ÿ I only have to charge every other day or so but I guess that's what happens when you go green ?????ÿ

 
Posted : 12/06/2019 8:47 pm
(@nate-the-surveyor)
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I said:

Well, I think a Javad user should charge more than any other brand.

He he he:)

Charge more $.?ÿ

Batts. Last 2 days. I think 2 days should be industry standard. 🙂

Have fun!

N

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Posted : 13/06/2019 4:50 am
(@norman-oklahoma)
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Posted by: Nate The Surveyor

.. I think a Javad user should charge more than any other brand...

N

A Javad user should be able to earn more by getting more done. But the price of any individual survey stays the same. Your hourly rates may increase, but the bottom line bill is unaffected.

Naturally nothing in the preceding statement precludes the surveyor from deciding that his rates have been too low in the past. If you can get it, take it.

 
Posted : 13/06/2019 10:30 am
(@tom-bushelman)
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At our surveying association annual picnic this weekend, stories were told of adventures and interests.?ÿ There were two recent stories of some GNSS points being off by 13' and 17'.?ÿ One point was collected with older equipment when that scenario was more common, but the 13 footer was using newish presumably reliable equipment.?ÿ A surveyor that shares my former hesitance of relying on GNSS is still on the fence because of situations like that.?ÿ If I thought my Javad unit would do that to me, I would still be chopping line and feeling absolutely confident because of traverse closure.?ÿ In fact, I still feel confident because of the information at my fingertips and the way the data is analyzed and used or discarded as appropriate.?ÿ On important points, I collect 240 epochs which takes with upsampling a little less than minute in good conditions and can take as long as it takes for the computing engines to agree in the woods.?ÿ It will not simply collect data for three minutes and average it.?ÿ Of course, multiple shots are always a good check too.?ÿ Bad data has always scared the bejesus out of me and it still happens.?ÿ It took a lot to get me on this train but the time and technology is finally right for me.?ÿ I thought I was the last one (I was in my area) but there are still cautious surveyors out there doing great work traditionally.

 
Posted : 17/06/2019 6:13 am
(@plumb-bill)
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I have to locate enough fence and possession lines on rural boundary projects that 20-30 minutes per point would be useless.  Makes a lot more sense to have a helper and traverse.

 
Posted : 17/06/2019 10:27 am
(@hpalmer)
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does Javad use Galileo in solutions??ÿ And, if so, what happens (quality/redundancy) in real time with all SV's turned on?

 
Posted : 17/06/2019 1:49 pm
(@tom-bushelman)
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That is a great question and I can tell you that I coughed up the extra bucks for Galileo and Beidou in base and rover so it is using it but I'll leave it to the more experienced users to answer that question.?ÿ There are lots of satellites in the air and simple math tells me that more is better.

 
Posted : 17/06/2019 3:52 pm
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