The thing to watch for is that he could accuse you of other things and not even mention the current request.?ÿ We are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.?ÿ But................... anymore the mere accusation can be damaging whether it advances or not.?ÿ That rat can then spread the word that he had to file a claim with the BOR on you.?ÿ That is why you need to be proactive.
@jph Even if both parties delete the messages both carriers likely have copies.?ÿ The information coming from one of the carriers would be stronger evidence than a copy form you he could claim was altered.?ÿ An attorney may know how to request copies from your carrier.
Probably the best thing to do is just let it go and don't respond, but if they were to persist, I'd just respond that you're too busy to deal with it but you'll be happy to turn their, 'request' and the circumstances over to the BOR yourself and let them deal with it. You don't have to tell him that the message was deleted and he doesn't need to know that. Very doubtful that he would want to have to explain this conduct to them.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
A few tidbits..
Boards (and agencies in general) aren't criminal authorities. I know of no jurisdiction that is allowed to share accusations falling short of a final order.
In some jurisdictions you would already have an obligation to inform the Board. Another licensee has asked you to sign work where you were not in responsible charge.
Lastly, kammah has no %=^^^^%% r in it. The American concept of 'what goes around comes around' is not the same as 'every action has an effect'.
Best of luck, Tom?ÿ
Thanks.?ÿ But just to clarify, we're talking about a project I did work on, and provided easement descriptions.?ÿ He's telling me that I didn't stamp them, and that I was contracted to stamp them.
First, I wasn't contracted.?ÿ The project contract was signed before I was even an employee there, and wasn't complete when I left.?ÿ And I've no recollection on whether I stamped them, if they were final, or just in the progress stage.?ÿ I somewhat remember them calling me soon after I left them and asking me to stamp plans that had changed, which I declined then.
Even if I'd been open to the idea now, it probably would take me several hours to a day to get back into the project enough to remember everything.?ÿ And I would need to really check to make sure the descriptions were actually written by me, etc.?ÿ I do find it hard to believe that everything has been on a shelf, intact, with nothing changing in the last 4 years.
@thebionicman I know kammah has no "r" in it but I also know there is no "k" in it. It is spelled "comma".
@jph This begs the question of why someone else can't write the easements and sign them. Do they not have another PLS on staff?
I just got a text from an engineer at a company I worked for 3-4 years ago, that he's going to file a formal complaint to the Board
LMAO, false intimidating worthless threats. You have many options to politely tell them to go, ummm "F" themselves, which may immediately alleviate the situation. A more professional approach, especially if the situation turns nasty, would be to advise your attorney to threaten the engineer and the corporation with a lawsuit. Never let threatening correspondence upset you, lt's written by paper tigers to "scare" you. ?????ÿ
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I asked that.?ÿ Apparently they got rid of their survey department. Ha
No wonder they're looking me up
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I believe this tactic falls under the guise of "strangling the chicken to increase the egg production". Please do keep us posted-?ÿ interesting approach to business and as others here have indicated, I would not be surprised to see this boomerang back upon the "complaintant".
I emailed the company's HR department with a run-down of what was said.?ÿ I'm hoping that's the end of it.
I was employed for a couple of years at an engineering firm.?ÿ I was their only licensed surveyor.?ÿ When it came time for me to leave I told the owner he had one week to tie up loose ends.?ÿ At the end of that week I left with well documented written notification.?ÿ Let's say the date was the fifteenth of the month.
Among a lot of other untied end was a final plat that needed to start its process up the food chain.?ÿ The first stop was the local city government's approval.?ÿ I had not signed the final plat before because corrections I had made weren't yet completed by the drafting department.?ÿ Oh well, I had warned the owner but it fell on deaf ears.
I get a phone call letting me know the plat approval was on the docket for the city council meeting.?ÿ I obtained a copy of the submittal and it bore my signature...dated the twenty fifth of the month.?ÿ A not so close examination of the document revealed visible pixels on my signature.?ÿ My old employer had cut-and-pasted my signature on a document after I had left his employment.?ÿ
I fired off enough certified letters to choke a mule.?ÿ The most important ones being the city engineer and the State Board.?ÿ Long story short my old employer lost his contract with the city (the client) and lost his Certificate of Authorization to offer professional services in Oklahoma.
He did try and sue me on the basis I had prepared the plat while still employed and the date of the actual signature was unimportant.?ÿ A judge thought different,?ÿ His suit against me was dismissed and he was ordered to pay my legal fees.?ÿ He lost big time on that deal.?ÿ
I still shut my eyes sometimes and remember his ranting and raving.?ÿ Things like that help me sleep at night. 😉
Another approach might be to agree to sign the plat (performed under your supervision) but only after they sign an agreement to pay you for your services. Sent him a proposal.
just fyi, I once worked for a large firm with practice to sign reproducible copies - I did not.?ÿ This firm also faxed seals w/signatures between offices to be placed on a plat as they did not have enough licensed surveyors to staff each office.?ÿ And, they thought nothing of revising a plat without the consent of the person signing.
Agree, take seriously as any complaint, no matter how baseless.
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@paden-cash As you should had and happy to hear of that result.
@jph Unblock his number to see if the message comes back.?ÿ If it doesn't, check with your carrier to see if there's another way to retrieve it.