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Hope this isn't something that's been asked already, or over discussed. I am just curious the percentage of land surveying companies that are on a cash basis or an accrual basis for taxes. Talking about a company with small number of employees (< 10).?ÿ


 
Posted : October 20, 2018 9:51 pm
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The books are run on accrual day to day, but the accountant backs it out to cash basis for tax purposes.


 
Posted : October 20, 2018 10:00 pm
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Cash basis for my solo operation.?ÿ I can't see any benefit to accrual.


 
Posted : October 20, 2018 10:51 pm
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Cash basis.


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 6:23 am
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16 employees, cash basis for 30 years in business.?ÿ ??ÿ


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 6:55 am

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1 to 6 employees. ?ÿ20 years. ?ÿCash.


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 7:16 am
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Cash.

?ÿ

Wunder whut Paden duz?


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 7:49 am
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When I win; I'm a gonna take the $904.9 Million cash payout. Instead of the $1.6 Billion over 20 years... ??ÿ ??ÿ


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 8:55 am
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Posted by: RADAR

When I win; I'm a gonna take the $904.9 Million cash payout. Instead of the $1.6 Billion over 20 years... ??ÿ ??ÿ

I heard one guy say he was going to pay off his wife's credit cards, and if there was any money left over...

If I win I'm going to spend it on wine, women and song, and the rest I'm going to waste.


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 6:06 pm
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Thank you all. Sounds like Cash wins. I was pretty sure that was the answer I would get.


 
Posted : October 21, 2018 8:46 pm

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Posted by: holy cow

Cash.

?ÿ

Wunder whut Paden duz?

He's probably on the accrual method: anything he accrues goes in his pocket.?ÿ ??ÿ


 
Posted : October 22, 2018 4:02 am
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ppm - what did your accountant and attorney say?


 
Posted : October 22, 2018 7:59 am
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Cash for 20 years here.?ÿ I could never figure out why I would want to pay taxes on money I have not yet received.


 
Posted : October 22, 2018 8:02 am
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Cash for 20 years here.?ÿ I could never figure out why I would want to pay taxes on money I have not yet received.


 
Posted : October 22, 2018 8:02 am
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You should do what your accountant says,

but don't discount 'Modified Accrual'; sometimes called 'Modified Cash Basis Accounting'.

If you are thinking about going public, selling out to a big company (and would need GAAP or IFRS compatible books) then MCBA won't fly. But it really is kind of a best of both worlds.

If you don't have an accountant, then cash.

🙂


 
Posted : October 24, 2018 9:36 am

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I don't know the difference which is why I am better off working for a construction company than running a business.

James


 
Posted : October 24, 2018 10:12 am
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Posted by: John Putnam

Cash for 20 years here.?ÿ I could never figure out why I would want to pay taxes on money I have not yet received.

This is exactly why you should have an accountant!

As someone stated in a different thread, Surveyors are the world's worst businessmen...


 
Posted : October 24, 2018 10:40 am
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I think the choice is heavily influenced by the size of your business.?ÿ But I know one owner who runs a dozen or so crews who regrets having chosen accrual.?ÿ (And yes, he has a full-time bookkeeper and an accounting consultant.)

For a solo operation I can't see any advantage to choosing accrual.?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : October 24, 2018 2:47 pm
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If you like paying taxes on invoices that have not been paid go with accrual.?ÿ My lousy?ÿ accountant set my s-corp up as accrual in 1997 and I've had to deal with it ever since.?ÿ I don't believe the accrual method is appropriate for a small service business with little or no accounts payable.


 
Posted : October 24, 2018 6:54 pm