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bremlyn
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Hi, I need to plot the location of all easements on my site plan for a building permit. ?ÿWe have several and I'm trying to figure out if this easement description is on the east property line or west property line.?ÿ

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Reserving therefrom an easement for road and public utilities over, under, along and across the Easterly 30 feet thereof, the Westerly line of said Easterly 30 feet being measured at right angles and radially to the Easterly line thereof".

Any help or insight on this is greatly appreciated. ?ÿ


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 12:06 pm
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East


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:02 pm
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Do you have an exhibit map?

It doesn't really make any sense with out one.


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:03 pm
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@dougie I do have a parcel map and a site plan I'm working on.


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:34 pm
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@brad-ott Thank you!! ?ÿI was initially thinking west until I read it again and then it seemed like east.


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:36 pm

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Easterly westerly northerly southerly are all vague uses of cardinal directions that could be anything in each quadrant.?ÿ Im no surveyor yet, but it sound like you might be well off hiring one or if you cant afford that, approach your local chapter of the survey board where you live to see if they do any ProBono work.

And like Radar said, a picture isworht a thousand words, adjacent deeds easements too


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:37 pm
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@jitterboogie I'm trying to upload the parcel map now. ?ÿI keep getting an error.


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:45 pm
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Thanks for everyone's help with this. ?ÿI appreciate your replies, suggestions and questions.

This parcel map shows our 20.2 acre property #32. ?ÿYellow highlights show where the title company plotted and noted the easements. ?ÿThere is one along the west property line and one along the east. ?ÿ

Another one I'm trying to figure out ... does this 8 foot easement start at the northeast corner of Sect. 7 and then only extend for 363 feet onto our property along the east property line? ?ÿ

?ÿ"the Northerly 363 feet of a strip of land 8 feet wide lying Westerly of and adjoining the Easterly line of the Northeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter, Section 7, said Township 13 South, Range 1 West.?ÿ


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 1:52 pm
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@bremlyn?ÿ

Can you post it?


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 2:02 pm
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@dougie Yes, I just got it to upload in the above post. ?ÿit was probably under moderation when you replied.

?ÿ


 
Posted : September 11, 2022 2:17 pm

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@bremlyn?ÿ

Looks like the east line to me, too; but I could be wrong.

I've never been wrong before, but there's always a first time...

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I hope everyone has a great week! I know I will.


 
Posted : September 12, 2022 8:52 am
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@dougie Thanks. ?ÿI'm going with the East line. ?ÿWe have one on each side, but I have note the dates, document numbers, and label all of them. ?ÿI appreciate your help and everyone's input!


 
Posted : September 12, 2022 9:29 am
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Posted by: @dougie

I've never been wrong before, but there's always a first time...

One time, I thought I was wrong - but I was mistaken.


 
Posted : September 12, 2022 10:42 am
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Posted by: @bremlyn

?ÿ"the Northerly 363 feet of a strip of land 8 feet wide lying Westerly of and adjoining the Easterly line of the Northeast Quarter of the Northeast Quarter, Section 7, said Township 13 South, Range 1 West.?ÿ


 
Posted : September 12, 2022 10:51 am
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I strongly detest "simple" descriptions that achieve nothing but confusing everyone.?ÿ In my opinion, routes as shown are neither on the eastern boundary or the southern boundary of the tract.?ÿ They deserve an indisputable description.


 
Posted : September 12, 2022 11:00 am

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@bremlyn

could you include the entire legal description of the parcel? this may help confirm what the East side of the parcel is. i assume that North is up on your parcel map?


 
Posted : September 15, 2022 2:31 pm
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The first description seems pretty clear that it is that 30' easement (of the 60') you yellowed out starting at the south prop corner and snaking up to the NE prop corner, following the entire length of the boundary.

The second easement you describe I believe does not fall on your property at all, but is an 8' strip (not shown) immediately west of (adjoining) the N/S section line, west of and off of your property.?ÿ It's possible this is described on something you're looking at bc it serves your property for utility (?).?ÿ Not sure how but my first guess would be that it's unrelated unless we could see the documents you're reading from.

Also, this poor quality plat also seems to clearly show (2) easements burdening your property along the northern boundary that you haven't mentioned yet.

Without a title commitment/search or other research this is difficult (ie, not possible) to feel confident we're getting a full picture.?ÿ But the first two seem pretty clear.?ÿ Just not sure what's left out.?ÿ See, surveyors don't charge too much - this stuff can take time.

You could draw those lines on your site plan, reference them to this record map (tax map? subdivision map?) and see if building comes back with anything.?ÿ Often these record maps are not required to be updated with information subsequent to the original recording.?ÿ Even your deed may not have to include record burdens or benefits.


 
Posted : September 15, 2022 7:20 pm
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@holy-cow?ÿ

isn't part of the tenet that they need to be unambiguous?

I took a class.?ÿ can you tell !??ÿ


 
Posted : September 16, 2022 9:27 am
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Tenet and unambiguous in the same sentence????ÿ You MUST have taken a class.


 
Posted : September 16, 2022 10:17 am