AI Assistant
Monitoring points
 
Notifications
Clear all

Monitoring points

9 Posts
9 Users
0 Reactions
895 Views
ruffbrew
(@ruffbrew)
Posts: 46
Member
Topic starter
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Suggestions for setting approx 100 monitoring points in concrete block walls on top and bottom of walls. Thinking reflective stickers with some kind of waterproof epoxy because the surface is not flat, and the walls are usually wet(Seattle). Most of the tops can set a lead and tack. In some areas thinking of using Benchtie nails in the cracks on some of the bottoms of walls due to not having much space away from walls to see the reflective stickers. Points are to be monitored for at least 3 years so semi permanent points. Thanks in advance!

Attached files


 
Posted : November 21, 2017 6:22 pm
Mark Mayer
(@mark-mayer)
Posts: 3371
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

For things in the face of the wall, 1/4" drill hole with 1-1/2" mag nail (big head). A little epoxy in the hole to keep things in place. Tie reflectorless. Stickers work great for shorter term but 3 years is likely too long.


 
Posted : November 21, 2017 8:01 pm
thebionicman
(@thebionicman)
Posts: 4524
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Avoid setting anything in any cracks. As Mark says, drill a hole. Check for any chalking or delam by tapoung with a hammer. If it makes a dull thud or high pitch clack find a better spot. After that, screw it up EXACTLY the same way every time...


 
Posted : November 21, 2017 10:45 pm
mvanhank222
(@mvanhank222)
Posts: 374
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Berntsen make a small tilting prisim setup with an adapter I wonder if you could by a bunch of adapters and just move the prisim around. They also make a retro reflective version of this that is a lot cheaper. https://www.berntsen.com/Surveying/Survey-Prisms/Specialty-Prisms/ctl/ViewProduct/mid/1611/itemID/1634


 
Posted : November 22, 2017 6:01 am
jimcox
(@jimcox)
Posts: 2102
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

Trimble sell a 25mm prism (part number 58008030) on a simple swivel mount that is designed for monitoring.

We use them a lot around our port and other monitoring jobs

Set a wall anchor, attach the prism, point in the correct direction and leave them there

You can get them in a http://www.survey-solutions-scotland.co.uk/shop/proddetail.php?prod=58008030&apos ;">box of 25

Not particularly cheap - but if the client is paying disbursements that's not your problem


 
Posted : November 22, 2017 10:44 am

james-fleming
(@james-fleming)
Posts: 5732
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I'm a fan of the products from Rothbucher Systems
https://www.meterriss.de/images/PDF/PP_us.pdf


 
Posted : November 22, 2017 10:52 am
john-putnam
(@john-putnam)
Posts: 2431
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

I do quite a bit of long term wall monitoring. On high walls (tamper-prof) we set permanent monitoring prisms. The are in the $100+ range if you get them form Leica, Trimble or Seco. I usually but a couple of hundred at a time from China for about $35 each. On lower points that are easier to get to and more likely to be tampered with I use a removable prism. A monument I use is similar to the Berntsen copper plugs but with an 8mm threaded center hole. When on site I then insert the complimentary prism mount in the monument. Neither of these are cheap to acquire or install, but if it needs to be correct it is worth the time and cost.


 
Posted : November 26, 2017 4:26 pm
NotSoMuch
(@notsomuch)
Posts: 367
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 
Posted by: jim.cox

Trimble sell a 25mm prism (part number 58008030) on a simple swivel mount that is designed for monitoring.

We use them a lot around our port and other monitoring jobs

Set a wall anchor, attach the prism, point in the correct direction and leave them there

You can get them in a http://www.survey-solutions-scotland.co.uk/shop/proddetail.php?prod=58008030&apos ;">box of 25

Not particularly cheap - but if the client is paying disbursements that's not your problem

Jim.Cox's link is broken - here is a corrected version:?ÿ?ÿ http://www.survey-solutions-scotland.co.uk/shop/proddetail.php?prod=58008030

I do like the?ÿRothbucher Systems items as mentioned by James Fleming.?ÿ If I were into such monitoring, I can see being very interested in said items.

?ÿ

?ÿ


 
Posted : November 27, 2017 6:47 am
kscott
(@kscott)
Posts: 292
Member
Translate
English
Spanish
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Russian
Chinese
Japanese
Korean
Arabic
Hindi
Dutch
Polish
Turkish
Vietnamese
Thai
Swedish
Danish
Finnish
Norwegian
Czech
Hungarian
Romanian
Greek
Hebrew
Indonesian
Malay
Ukrainian
Bulgarian
Croatian
Slovak
Slovenian
Serbian
Lithuanian
Latvian
Estonian
 

For monitoring the wall in the photo we used tiles purchased in sheets from Home depot and attached reflective stickers from Berntsen.?ÿ The tile was then Liquid Nailed to the gabion baskets and read by total station from the vantage point of the photo. They showed no sign of deterioration in the year we used them and I think the County still uses them several years later.


 
Posted : December 7, 2017 1:40 pm