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(@andy-nold)
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Ok, some kind of Red Oak. Not sure. Collected in south central Tarrant County, Texas. In the field I thought it was a Turkey Oak, but the shape is wrong and too many lobes. Any suggestions?

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 1:02 pm
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Pin Oak?

Skinnier than most I have seen. In the red oak family.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 1:16 pm
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Perhaps Texas Red Oak, a.k.a. Spanish Oak. These thing can hybridize which can make an id difficult. An acorn might help.

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 1:30 pm
(@andy-nold)
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I was thinking the possibility of a hybridized oak. The acorn is about 1". I didn't look all that close at the bark or structure of the tree. I'll have to drive back by if I can't figure it out.

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 1:46 pm
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This is a guess from a guy in NY, but your photo looks almost exactly like the picture in my old Textbook of Dendrology by Harlow and Harrar. It could be quercus velutina, aka Black Oak. The map shows it in your area. I had underlined "inner bark bright orange or yellow" which may be worth checking.

Ken

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 1:56 pm
(@a-harris)
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Young southern red oak.
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Posted : April 19, 2013 2:05 pm
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be my luck that it would turn out to be poison oak.:-O :-$

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 2:11 pm
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I would say a pin oak -- some folks call it a black oak.
Do you have some bark or an acorn?

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 2:22 pm
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Texas Red Oak/Spanish Oak

The images I have for Pin Oaks have paired lobes. The Spanish Oak has offset lobes. Hope this crazy link works.

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Paul in PA

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 3:57 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Graves Oak?
Quercus gravesii

"Small to medium-sized tree with very rough, blackish bark and with leaves deeply lobed and bristle tipped; confined to Trans-Pecos Texas and adjacent Mexico." Per National Audubon Society field guide to trees.

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 4:26 pm
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The lack of water is making things grow weird in Texas right now.
Wouldn't be surprised if it looks different than if it rained once or twice a year...
Old trees are even dying...

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 4:53 pm
(@surv8r)
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Southern Red Oak

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 5:53 pm
(@sir-veysalot)
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OAK!

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 8:39 pm
(@bryan-newsome)
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quercus pagodifolia

Cherrybark oak

 
Posted : April 19, 2013 9:40 pm
(@jeff-opperman)
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It sure does look that the Turkey Oak, although it is outside of it's normal range.

It kind of looks like a Shumard Oak. This is a leaf from my collection.

Although the picture in the book doesn't really look like yours, there is a Texas variety that may be it. A lot of these were planted as ornamentals, also.

This is a Scarlet Oak which it might also be. However, the range is a bit to the North of where you are.

This is a Black Oak which is another possibility.

And this is a Pin Oak which is a possibility also.

This is a Southern Red Oak, which I don't think is it.

And this is a Cherrybark Oak which I don't believe it is either.

At this point, you are going to have to really scrutinize the different features of the leaves, acorns, bark, size of tree etc. The twigs and buds (may be a little late for them) or color of the bark (inside and outside) or differing colors of the leaf surface may be the proving point in determining what it is.

Good luck figuring it out and please let us know what you finally decide that it is.

 
Posted : April 21, 2013 3:29 am
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I vote for Scarlet Oak, since according to my book a pin oak acorn doesn't get that big

 
Posted : April 21, 2013 6:02 am