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Dan Patterson
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Which one is it? I've always used topographic, but based on the definitions maybe they're both right??? Which is more common?


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 8:17 am
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Yes.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 8:34 am
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If one charges by the letter, the choice is obvious...
Topo or topographic. Never topographical.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 9:47 am
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A topographic map may also have topographical features.

I guess things can be topographical. Including a topographic map.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 9:56 am
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BajaOR, post: 418799, member: 9139 wrote: Topo or topographic.

Dan Patterson, post: 418781, member: 1179 wrote: Which one is it?

I use Topographic Survey. As do most I've seen. But "Survey of Topography" has a certain https://www.google.com/search?q=catchet&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#dobs=cachet&apos ;">catchet. Perhaps I'll change,

I avoid using abbreviations in general, except where necessary for space.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 10:03 am

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IMVHO...,.

Topographic is a noun
Topographical is an adjective

A "topographic survey" is a type of survey product that shows topography.
A "topographical survey" is they type of survey work that is required to produce a topography survey .

What are you guys doing? We're performing a topographical survey.
Why the heck would you do that? Because the client wants a topographic survey.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 11:04 am
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James Fleming, post: 418815, member: 136 wrote: IMVHO...,.

Topographic is a noun
Topographical is an adjective

According to several dictionaries I checked, "topographic" is an adjective just like "topographical". When I've seen similar things like this, "topographical", like "geographical", has a British feel to me. I ran both terms through Google's NGram viewer.

I'm not sure whether it will embed correctly here:

<iframe name="ngram_chart" src="""https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=topographic%2Ctopographical&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Ctopographic%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Ctopographical%3B%2Cc0&apos ;"> https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=topographic,topographical&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1;,topographic;,c0;.t1;,topographical;,c0 " width=900 height=500 marginwidth=0 marginheight=0 hspace=0 vspace=0 frameborder=0 scrolling=no>

Okay, embedding, no. Here's the link:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=topographic%2Ctopographical&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Ctopographic%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Ctopographical%3B%2Cc0&apos ;">NGram link

To summarize, "topographical" has been generally popular in both American and British English since 1800. However, "topographic" usage took off around 1900 and is now more popular. Specifically in British English books, topographical is still more popular, but not by much compared to usage before 1930 or so. (my guess is that American involvement in WWII increased "topographic" usage everywhere.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 1:07 pm
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In Canada they are "top-oh-graf-ik" surveys. As opposed to the US pronunciation "toe-poe-graf-ik". I took a lot of ribbing over that c.1994. I still use both pronunciations within a single paragraph worth of speech.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 1:50 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 418836, member: 424 wrote: In Canada they are "top-oh-graf-ik" surveys. As opposed to the US pronunciation "toe-poe-graf-ik". I took a lot of ribbing over that c.1994. I still use both pronunciations within a single paragraph worth of speech.

As a young lad I was sent to speech therapy in grade school to rid me of improver pronunciation of such words. The really hated it when I called a tuque a tuque. I still get comments on survey reviews for using the proper spelling of aluminium (even the form says I just misspelled it). A fried of mine with English parents went through the same thing.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 2:42 pm
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"Topo" is all I've heard for many years.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 4:03 pm

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I never abbreviate it as topo when written on the title of the plan. I only do that when speaking or in casual email conversations, etc.


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 4:30 pm
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I say topo too, but put topographic on my surveys


 
Posted : March 16, 2017 4:39 pm
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Dan Patterson, post: 418781, member: 1179 wrote: Which one is it? I've always used topographic, but based on the definitions maybe they're both right??? Which is more common?

Now how do you go with Planimetrics?


 
Posted : March 17, 2017 4:48 am
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spledeus, post: 418896, member: 3579 wrote: Now how do you go with Planimetrics?

Planimometrimicus


 
Posted : March 17, 2017 6:36 pm
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Contours or isolines?
Contiguous or conterminous?
Scale : Ft/inch or 1:xxxxxx?
Loxodrome or rhumb line?
Flowline or thalweg?


 
Posted : March 17, 2017 7:16 pm

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"We are performing a typographical survey, to find out if it is a ..."


 
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