Moving an existing monument to fit your calcs
Perhaps the high winds tilted that wee 3/8" bar 18 inches up.
At least a pin cushion leaves evidence of your assumed superior measuring abilities.
> At least a pin cushion leaves evidence of your assumed superior measuring abilities.
Pin cushions happen and it's not all about measuring. The ones I pincushion just do not agree with the evidence.
Oh boy I know they do happen. I'm just saying if I find a monument within "reasonable placement" of where my calculations put the point, I will not re-monument, but reference the found point. Making me a paper pin-cushioner I guess.
Surveying Taboo - Bob
The problem I see with just referencing a monument off and not placing one is that the typical client will not understand a call to an off monument. Folks just see what is there and accept it..maybe.
Naturally, the area one works in will also make a difference. For some odd reason the last three surveys I have done have been in zero setback situations, so placing a new monument next to an existing one just had to be done.
Taboo
"adjusting" a mistake
Surveying Taboo - Bob
Well that's a whole other ball of wax. zero setbacks. I'm talking 20-50 and more acre farm land in central MA. Many years ago when I worked in the city, buildings were the monuments, and local workers routinely wiped out surveyors marks. High priced areas like that, I could see you standing your ground on your numbers.
In short, I agree.
Not surveying the boundary; surveying a fantasy instead.
(a)
Surveyors (that know better) that start regularly observing 0.10 to 0.25 ft. of random slop in traverse mis-closures and BEGINNING AT THAT POINT start their 2 year countdown to an instrument calibration.
(b)
Large, nation wide, 400 plus employee civil engineering firms that have one RPLS per state and operate in the field strictly via contract crews. The RPLS may or may not perform a brief and rapid, cursory boundary analysis and may or may not generate contours for topographic surveys. The complete and final subdivision plat, having been totally put together by civil cad tech's and/or EIT's and this "engineered" plat is basically all that he sees for the job immediately before he stamps it and sends it back out the door.
(c)
Field crews that are too lazy to dig the dirt and mud out of the inverts of silted up culvert pipes. A flowline shot is recorded with the rod standing on top of 3 ft. of accumulated silt rather than the actual pipe invert. This one really ticks me off because invariably tthe engineers will design their system to tie into a pipe flowline that is way too high.
(d)
Surveyors that notice several 'blanket' easements in their title commitment and then neglect to tie down the 1000 feet of pin flags or pipeline markers very recently set on their subject tract (because it's accounted for by the blanket easement)...
(e)
Surveyors that get bullied by their title companies and clients into certifying all kinds of things that they can't really certify too.
Your plat states you set a monument, when in fact you did not.
Placing a cap or tag on another surveyors points. Then representing the point as set on the survey instead of found.
> Placing a cap or tag on another surveyors points. Then representing the point as set on the survey instead of found.
Why would anyone even do that?
Accepting a monument for a corner, but driving your rebar with cap right next to it to show that you'd been there.
Surveying Taboo>Straddling
Straddling the legs!!!!!
Surveying Taboo - Bob
> The problem I see with just referencing a monument off and not placing one is that the typical client will not understand a call to an off monument. Folks just see what is there and accept it..maybe.
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> Naturally, the area one works in will also make a difference. For some odd reason the last three surveys I have done have been in zero setback situations, so placing a new monument next to an existing one just had to be done.
Oddly, under varying conditions, I agree with both of you on this subject. I have to have strong evidence to not hold a monument and I need a particular type of situation to set a new one to replace the one I am not holding.
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Paper monuments / surveys (Happens all the time in LA County)
Strutting around and talking like your the best surveyor out there when when ALL of
your "peers" knows that your not!
Thankfully, I know few surveyors like this, but the few like it are a real pain.
Surveying Taboo>Straddling
> Straddling the legs!!!!!
I don't think we're allowed to talk about that.
Don
