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dave-karoly
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KT2030 STATION RECOVERY (2015)
KT2030
KT2030'RECOVERY NOTE BY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY 2015 (DBK)
KT2030'FOUND THE STATION MARK AND REFERENCE MARK 1 IN GOOD CONDITION.
KT2030'REFERENCE MARK 2 HAS BEEN DESTROYED.
KT2030'
KT2030'FROM THE CAL FIRE FIRE MENDOCINO UNIT HEADQUARTERS PROCEED SOUTHERLY
KT2030'ON US101 1.0 MI (1.6 KM) TO A ROAD ON THE LEFT (THE CONCRETE K-RAIL
KT2030'BEGINS JUST AFTER THE TURN). TURN LEFT ONTO THE ROAD, PROCEED THROUGH
KT2030'THE GATE AND FOLLOW IT TO THE RIGHT FOR 0.4 MI (0.6 KM) TO A FORK.
KT2030'TAKE THE LEFT FORK, PROCEED FOR 0.2 MI (0.3 KM) TO A GATE (NOT
KT2030'LOCKED). PROCEED FOR 0.1 MI (0.2 KM) CROSSING THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO
KT2030'A FORK. TAKE THE RIGHT FORK, PROCEED FOR 3.1 MILES (PASSING THROUGH
KT2030'AN UNLOCKED GATE ON THE WAY) TO A 4-WAY INTERSECTION. TAKE THE EAST
KT2030'FORK (THE HIGHEST ROAD), PROCEED 0.3 MI (0.5 KM) TO THE STATION ON THE
KT2030'LEFT.
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Posted : March 31, 2015 7:59 am
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[pre]
KT2030 STATION RECOVERY (2015)
KT2030
KT2030'RECOVERY NOTE BY CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY 2015 (DBK)
KT2030'FOUND THE STATION MARK AND REFERENCE MARK 1 IN GOOD CONDITION.
KT2030'REFERENCE MARK 2 HAS BEEN DESTROYED.
KT2030'
KT2030'FROM THE CAL FIRE FIRE MENDOCINO UNIT HEADQUARTERS PROCEED SOUTHERLY
KT2030'ON US101 1.0 MI (1.6 KM) TO A ROAD ON THE LEFT (THE CONCRETE K-RAIL
KT2030'BEGINS JUST AFTER THE TURN). TURN LEFT ONTO THE ROAD, PROCEED THROUGH
KT2030'THE GATE AND FOLLOW IT TO THE RIGHT FOR 0.4 MI (0.6 KM) TO A FORK.
KT2030'TAKE THE LEFT FORK, PROCEED FOR 0.2 MI (0.3 KM) TO A GATE (NOT
KT2030'LOCKED). PROCEED FOR 0.1 MI (0.2 KM) CROSSING THE RAILROAD TRACKS TO
KT2030'A FORK. TAKE THE RIGHT FORK, PROCEED FOR 3.1 MILES (PASSING THROUGH
KT2030'AN UNLOCKED GATE ON THE WAY) TO A 4-WAY INTERSECTION. TAKE THE EAST
KT2030'FORK (THE HIGHEST ROAD), PROCEED 0.3 MI (0.5 KM) TO THE STATION ON THE
KT2030'LEFT.
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Shouldn't you have included the instructions to OPEN the gate before passing through it and to CLOSE it upon passage? Likewise, when you advise to take "THE HIGHEST ROAD" shouldn't you have been more specific that you mean in terms of elevation? EMWTK.


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 8:45 am
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Have a dram of Lagavulin 16 and which is the high road should become eminently clear.

The high road is not the low road.


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 9:43 am
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I had to look up "K-Rail". I've always called that "Jersey Barrier". So does Wikipedia.


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 10:20 am
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Shouldn't this be submitted to NGS?


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 1:05 pm

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I believe that K-rail is a CALTRANS term.


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 1:13 pm
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Hasn't it already been? A left margin made of the PID number is typical of the data sheet.

Cheers,
Henry


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 6:04 pm
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Given that one must pass through these gates to reach the points and they are all unlocked, why are there even gates in the first place? Where our work is done, gates are to keep riff raff out and the insanity in, but in this case an unlocked gate is pointless. I can see why you would want to be instructed to close the gate behind you. However in an equestrian area which a good majority of our work takes place the golden rule is, "If the gate is closed, close it behind you and if the gate is open, leave it open" as in they are also there for a reason. As far as reporting it to NGS, it's most likely hopeless. Some folks take the high road, and some folks take the low road, the rest just get lost.


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 11:31 pm
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> Given that one must pass through these gates to reach the points and they are all unlocked, why are there even gates in the first place?

The gates would typically be to keep livestock in one pasture or another. My riff was based upon the idea that many urban surveyors wouldn't know that the convention is to leave gates as you find them in rural areas.


 
Posted : March 31, 2015 11:42 pm
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I guess I missed the point of why it is posted here.

NGS does not want updated recovery information submitted unless the monument is disturbed/destroyed, which was not the case here.


 
Posted : April 1, 2015 7:58 am

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The last recovery note for the station was 1970 and it is obvious that Dave provided an updated "to reach" description. Additionally, he noted that Reference Mark 2 had been destroyed, which had not been previously reported. I don't think it is correct that NGS will not accept mark recovery reports unless the station has been destroyed. DSWORLD is an excellent tool for filing these reports.


 
Posted : April 1, 2015 9:19 am
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Posted : April 1, 2015 11:51 am
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I did an OPUS DB Observation on a Benchmark last year. When I got my submittal back, there was a note on it asking me to do a recovery report. They had not had a recovery report for 5 years. I did the recovery report and used DS World to send in some pictures. I always do recoverys to let others know that it is still there.:-)


 
Posted : April 2, 2015 7:29 am