I use Microsurvey 2010 and draw all my Title surveys from that.
One major drawback for me is the way it ouputs its stakeout bearings. (and other such reports where bearings are included)
I need to end up with something like this
from (12)
(10) 325°25'36" 45.686 OCP
etc etc
rather than a decimal point bearing (325.2536) and coords between the bearing and the distance.
Its easy to change and I have an Excel routine that makes the changes but its time consuming.
I have suggested to them on several occasions the need to better present this for plan drawing excercises.
Interested in what other survey applications output.
That's dangerous!
I would read that as decimal degrees!
:-O
I never work in real decimal degrees. The format you're dealing with is something I've had to deal with reguarly. I personally don't have an issue with it.
Stakeout = Multiple Inverses in Copan
You can choose Angle (R/L) & Distance, Bearing & Distance, or Station & Offset.
I'm considering allowing you to omit the coords.
Here's the output
(not sure how to force fixed-width font - just imagine it all lining up nicely):
[pre]
Point Northing Easting Bearing Distance
At 1 200.000 100.000
To
2 207.980 100.000 0°00'00" 7.980
3 207.980 103.430 23°15'33" 8.686
4 209.830 103.430 19°14'08" 10.411
[/pre]
Not sure about Microsurvey 2010, but if I remember correctly, at least the older versions of LDD, it depended on your output settings.
hi richard,
this has nothing to do with the subject line and i am not martin f. i am martin's 'non-surveying-other than by marriage connected' wife. we were looking at the pictures posted as id's and i said i thought your pic was a tasmanian devil. is that correct?
cathy
How many people still use radial stakeout reports?
I don't think I've used one since 1988.
This is the only way I can get this sort of reporting from Microsurvey
And yes it looks like decimal degrees but for those in the know its DMS
They mix up DMS and what appear decimals but are in fact DMS and its not easy.
This is how I deal with it (Its nothing about 'Stakeout Reports' - just have to use that routine.
Stakeout report:
Setup Point#:59 Using Direct Azimuths:
============================================================================
Pt# Azimuth Distance Northing Easting Elevation Description
62 183.1727 27.567 5427865.825 443938.659 0.000 ORM
66 188.3744 17.844 5427875.705 443937.564 171.139 POST
64 265.2848 15.078 5427892.159 443925.210 170.890 POST
65 285.3402 4.103 5427894.448 443936.289 169.034 SH
63 302.5719 13.228 5427900.543 443929.141 170.120 POST 1103
Stakeout report:
Setup Point#:59 Using Direct Azimuths:
============================================================================
Pt# Azimuth Distance Northing Easting Elevation Description
At Sp (59)
(62)183°17’27” 27.567 O Ref (SP120123)
(66)188°38’ 17.84 Post
(64)265°29’ 15.08 Post
(65)285°34’00” 4.103 SH C/l bit
(63)302°57’ 13.23 Post (1103)
We are required to present our survey notes to the Titles Office in this sort of presentation or show countless annotated radiations to surveyed features.
(yes there's a mix of accuracy in that too) Wont go into that.
My posting was really how do others show such things and if its similar way then what programs give a printout/ report like I have detailed above?
Richard
'non-surveying-other than by marriage connected' wife
yes Cathy - thats right.
A healthy Tasmanian Devil.
They really are endearing creatures but I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of their jaw.
They are extremely powerful in that area and eat (try to) anything that smells of meat including boots.
I love that description - and it made my non surveying wife chuckle too.
regards
Martin's SWMBO, As an OZ I can say yes you are correct
Richard is a Tasmanian.
Sadly these ugly little critters are all now highly endangered as an horrific contagious virus has swept through Tasmania wiping them out.
RADU
If I were you, I'd drop that zero (microsurvey) and get you a hero (Carlson).
I don't use standouts much, but it will put it in damn near any format you want with the click of your mouse.
Stakeout = Multiple Inverses in Copan
Martin that looks just how I would want it and the true line offsets (as we call them here) also.
Yes without coords would be ideal.
I gather this is your routine/ program?
We work in what we call bearings here and I see Copan handles full circle bearings.
So if was to export an ASCII file out of Microsurvey in Pt,E,N,Code then can I import into Copan and run with that for all my output reporting?
Does Copan handle EN or only NE (north/ East)?
Our convention is ENZ.
regards
Richard
Stakeout = Multiple Inverses in Copan
> I gather this is your routine/ program?
> We work in what we call bearings here and I see Copan handles full circle bearings.
> So if was to export an ASCII file out of Microsurvey in Pt,E,N,Code then can I import into Copan and run with that for all my output reporting?
> Does Copan handle EN or only NE (north/ East)?
yes copan is "my" program (i'm the programmer and promoter)
and yes you can set copan to output quadrant bearings
and yes, you can import ASCII P,E,N,C into copan
(reporting is NE, however, import/export can be EN)
give it a try...
mf
'non-surveying-other than by marriage connected' wife
thank you richard. we noticed after sending the question that you were from tasmania. sorry to hear these little creatures are endangered due to a virus.
hope all is well with your non-surveying wife and yourself.
cathy
I agree with Sinc! I didn't know anyone was still using radial stakeout sheets! Wow, that really brings back memories of the early 1980's for me! Been using DC's since like 1987 when I got my first SDR1 of SDR2.
PS: I just ran one in Carlson. You can get bearins, azimuths, angle right, or any combo thereof. Here is the results selecting angle right with azmuths:
Radial Stakeout 6/8/2011 14:35
Max Horiz Distance: 1000.0
File> C:UsersSteve BurkholderDocumentsSURVEYS2011 SurveysLS87CADXrefLS87-C-SP.crd
Job Description>
Job Number> 0.000 Job Date> 2011.0403
Occupied Point
1 1089035.776 483587.260 11.240 TRAV
Backsight Point
2 1089114.304 483193.182 11.070 TRAV
Backsight Azimuth=281°16'11" HzDist=401.826
Point No. AngRight Azimuth HzDist North(y) East(x) Elev(z) Desc
7 340°09'52" 261°26'03" 772.636 1088920.696 482823.241 8.170 TRAV
8 1°58'42" 283°14'53" 746.230 1089206.787 482860.889 9.390 TRAV
9 25°34'06" 306°50'17" 920.356 1089587.581 482850.669 10.330 TRAV
22 336°38'07" 257°54'18" 589.315 1088912.294 483011.027 8.562 TRAV/SARCOTRAV2
23 73°54'20" 355°10'31" 165.690 1089200.879 483573.324 12.800 TRAV
24 317°23'13" 238°39'24" 220.546 1088921.056 483398.899 9.180 TRAV
Number of points listed> 6
PS: when I pasted the above report into beerleg, it lost all the formatting of keeping everything in columns. ????
Steve it appears (obvious?) Carlson is a far more practical program in surveyors use when it comes to these sort of things.
'If I were you, I'd drop that zero (microsurvey) and get you a hero (Carlson). '
Kris your are probably on the mark here.
I've been concerned for a long time now that Microsurvey has the potential but never seem able to break into 'the next level' if you get my jist, for whatever reason.
Thanks for all the input.
I will give Copan a try first and see if that satisfies my needs.
I've got a lot 'invested' in Microsurvey products and so am a little reluctant at this time to change. Wiser too late perhaps??
Richard
Stakeout = Multiple Inverses in Copan
Thanks Martin
I have tried it and it is very neat thanks and does what I am after.
I would welcome as an option 'I'm considering allowing you to omit the coords.' thanks.
Someone said how quick and easy it was to pick up and run with and I fully agree.
regards
Richard