I have been asked to perform a boundary survey on one line of a lot. First of all I have never been asked to not perform a full survey of the property and am just wondering if this is written into the contract would this be a legit survey. The scenario is she used to own up to an alley way on the north line of her lot and now the alley way has been vacated. She wants to move her fence up to that midline of the alley. This is all in the State of Kansas.
don't you have to survey the whole lot to do one line? I get this all the time, they only want one line STAKED so they think just one line is surveyed.
In this case the line is surveyed both directions by recent plats so i would assume you could determine the east west location of both her back corners. I would still locate the front corners or determine their position but she doesn't want the contract to be for the whole parcel. CRAZY LADY!
> I have been asked to perform a boundary survey on one line of a lot. First of all I have never been asked to not perform a full survey of the property and am just wondering if this is written into the contract would this be a legit survey. The scenario is she used to own up to an alley way on the north line of her lot and now the alley way has been vacated. She wants to move her fence up to that midline of the alley. This is all in the State of Kansas.
We get this all the time, people asking for just one line to be surveyed. I just tell them its the same price for a full survey, they always go with the full survey.
Double your price and tell her she gets 50% off if she lets you do the entire parcel.
>We get this all the time, people asking for just one line to be surveyed. I just tell them its the same price for a full survey, they always go with the full survey.
That's my typical response too. With an explanation as to why we must determine not only her lot, but adjoiners as well.
It also sounds like an opportunity to talk to neighbors and stake the entirety of the ally for all parties, and basically you're a hero. Plus everybody saves a few bucks and you quadruple your fee
Maybe she knows there might be something up with her other boundary lines? (to her benefit)
It is not at all unusual to get this type of request. Contrary to the banter on here there are times it is absolutely appropriate.
If three of 4 lines are in agreement with a Plat and have well settled possession, why waste time dealing with them? Tie what you have to in order to certify the line. That may involve the entire parcel but not always. How much will be saved is another matter entirely...
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Bingo!! that's what I do to. Just had one recently. Guy bought the house, did not get it surveyed... but within a week of moving in has questions about the plants and the neighbor and where is this and who's is that.
But he "didn't need a boundary survey". I said, well, that's actually exactly what you need and the only thing I do. But he didn't like my fee, so I sent him on his way.
I'd bet 20 bucks that I hear from him later this year, when whatever cheapo-exact surveyor screws it up and his neighbor sues him. and I will chuckle under my breath as I triple my fee.
Thanks for all your insight. I chose to quote her for a full lot survey. She didn't like it.:'(
If you had worded your proposal different, by giving her what she wants, without having to explain the rest, you may have gotten the job.
I agree with Foggy, I used to waste alot of time explaining my process and telling them they might as well have me set pins on the whole thing while I was there. They'd get upset trying to tell me they only need one line surveyed and I wouldn't get the job. I got to thinking the heck with it, I'll charge what I need to and if I still don't get it fine but I'm going to stop wasting my time telling them how it's done. Started getting a lot more of those projects. Some people are happier not knowing how the sausage was made.
If The Alley Is Vacated, She Needs A New Description
Because 1/2 the alley goes to the other parcel, you in fact have to survey both lots.
Paul in PA
If The Alley Is Vacated, She Needs A New Description
I would have to say you are correct.
Here you go, Ma'am
Here you go, Ma'am.
That's the centerline of the alley.
If you want to supersize your survey,I can show you where your sidelines intersect it.
Don
We call them Identification Surveys in QLD, Australia.
They happen all the time. I would easily do more Ident Surveys than full Bdy Surveys.
They carry the same Cadastral Survey requirements of any other registered Survey Plan. I.e. you have to be able to prove that you are placing the marks in the correct place. If both ends of the line are fixed by solid monuments, that might be all you need.
Sometimes/often Idents need just as much investigation/work as a full survey anyway.
> It is not at all unusual to get this type of request. Contrary to the banter on here there are times it is absolutely appropriate.
> If three of 4 lines are in agreement with a Plat and have well settled possession, why waste time dealing with them? Tie what you have to in order to certify the line. That may involve the entire parcel but not always. How much will be saved is another matter entirely...
agreed. I honestly don't see a problem with surveying one point, one line, or a gazillion.
upsell if you can, but focus on what the client wants and needs first
No, she doesn't
People are nuts! It's just that simple. Logic makes no sense to a nut.
No one thinking "cheap, cheap, cheap" wants to hear anything beyond, "Yup, we'll get'er done ASAP for the lowest possible dollar."
You have one of those cases where NOT explaining what you do is a really good thing. It is even better if you slip in to do the job while she's making an emergency run to the post office to sign for a certified letter (that is from you, of course).
You are not creating a new tract or a new description. That has already happened with no involvement by a surveyor. You are simply documenting the location of points along a line that is the centerline of a former alley. She doesn't even really need you to mark the precise corners so long as she can "eyeball" where it is that she had better not being doing any construction. You could pick random locations on either side of her property lines (extended) and let her know-it-all fence builder pull a string line. She simply wants to extend whatever she has for fencing out to, or near to, that line.
Or, you could go through the precise same motions that you always do to confirm where you believe the final resolution falls and bill her for that level of effort. She thinks that by demanding less she can actually get that and save a buck. Your liability remains the same.
No, she doesn't....I would think she does
The description of her property has now changed with the advent of this new claim, and filing this for record seems like the prudent approach. I mean of you're going to stake and represent this as boundary, why not properly file it for record?
You're already taking on the liability and it seems to me it would likewise be prudent to advise her that making it a matter of record is constructive notice of her claim.
If a municipality vacates or quitclaims a parcel it merely means just that, it's not an intent to convey.
