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(@hgman)
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NORTH CAROLINA:

Subdivision: generally yes, although what has to be recorded and what doesn't is delegated to the county and municipal planning agencies

Surveys: can be recorded, but actual practice varies by location. In my neck of the woods, very few boundary retracements are recorded, but I've worked in other counties, particularly rural and/or mountainous ones, where it's the practice to do so

Corner Records: not a Public Lands state, so not really an issue here. The NC general statutes allow for the recording of "Control Surveys", but I have yet to see one

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 2:43 pm
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Mark

Like this?

From a cad drawing of a survey I was provided from a client.

Is this a great State or what?

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 3:59 pm
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How about different countries as well?

QLD, Aus;
S16 Survey and Mapping Infrastructure Act 2003
>A cadastral surveyor must, within 40 business days after placing a survey mark in carrying out a cadastral survey, or supervising the placement of the mark, give the chief executive a copy of the plan of survey complying with subsection (3), unless the surveyor has a reasonable excuse.

It's also a requirement that on all survey plans that Surveyors must connect to at least 2 registered Permanent Survey Marks (our version of your NGS marks)

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 4:23 pm
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Mark

> Like this?
>
I believe that I've seen actual corner records filed on "Good Buzz".

I know that our crews would sometimes bring that back. In their defense, they wanted me to anoint the position as being worthy of the digging before spending quality time in traffic. At least that was their story, and they stuck to it.

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 4:24 pm
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Mark

Hey, at least it didn't say "HUGE BUZZ"!

Egg Shen, Big Trouble in Little China

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 5:20 pm
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Mark

I am fond of the term "ZING"

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 5:20 pm
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ALASKA

Subdivisions: recording required
Surveys: Yes, recording required if "material discrepancy"
Corner records: Yes (not limited to PLSS corners)

 
Posted : April 17, 2015 11:43 pm
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Florida

FLORIDA

Subdivision Plats:....Yes... Florida Statutes Chapter 177, Part 1
Surveys:...............No... But can attach to a deed as long as you can fit it on legal size (don't see it very often)
Corner Records:........Yes... Florida Statutes Chapter 177, Part 3

 
Posted : April 18, 2015 3:28 am
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MAINE

does not require that anything be recorded and it's an ongoing issue among land surveyors -- I know some who favor mandatory recording but many do not. Our Board's standards require that we respect the client's right to confidentiality. I've seen the light and have been recording everything for a few years now unless the client explicitly directs me not to -- rare but it does happen.

 
Posted : April 18, 2015 5:04 am
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Kansas

Subdivisions--Yes--Meaning full-blown subdivisions with new streets, dedications, etc. that require multiple reviews and signatures. Everything else is just a common survey.

Common surveys--Yes and No--Yes if it involves creation of a new parcel, no if it is merely a retracement of an existing tract. Officially recorded surveys are those permanently filed with the Register of Deeds Office. As they are only indexed to a specific property they are easily missed by those searching for surveys elsewhere in that block, section or subdivision. Most counties have repositories other than the official Register of Deeds Office where surveys are collected, indexed in several ways and made conveniently available to surveyors including railroad strip maps, land survey reference reports (section corner data), highway plans, county road and bridge projects, cemetery plats and all sorts of other information that can come in handy from time to time. Obviously, anything can be officially recorded, either as a survey or as a miscellaneous document. It is more important, however, to get as many surveys as possible collected in the repositories mentioned whether they are required to be recorded or not as these repositories are the surveyor's first stop for information.

Corner records--PLSS corner data is to be provided to the Kansas State Historical Society Archives and to the county or counties in which the corners are located. Different offices in the different counties end up with these, so you have to ask around when you go to a county where you've not been before. The catch is that you are supposed to file these reports EVERY TIME you use a specific corner. Hence, there are corner records that are virtually identical, but with different dates, for the same monument. Might be 100 for a specific corner in a high survey area. That's ridiculous. What some companies using GPS have started doing is citing on their plat that they used a specific corner but did not actually locate the monument and simply applied the same set of coordinates as the last time they used that monument. I will let others debate the correctness of that procedure. The KSHS-filed corners can be identified via internet search. But, you must pay KSHS for the information on the corner forms that you need for your project. The funds to cover the expense of archiving these records come from the corner requests at a certain price per document and a base fee plus there is a $4.00 per form cost to the submitting surveyor. So you pay to enter your own and you pay to access those provided by others. Still, that probably isn't enough money to pay for maintenance of the archives.

We do not have a requirement, such as in California, that requires filing of property corner records as a separate action. But, every survey results in a plat showing all monuments found and set and the size, material, etc. of each monument. It seems silly to do a survey and create new descriptions yet have no requirement to create a plat depicting that information as is the case in some States. On the other hand, we have no requirement that plats be attached to deeds as is the case in some States.

 
Posted : April 18, 2015 7:25 am
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Sure, but if the jurisdiction doesn't require a plat, it won't get recorded. The lots will be conveyed by metes and bounds description.

 
Posted : April 18, 2015 8:31 am
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New Mexico
Subdivisions - yes
Boundary Surveys - yes (if measurements are significantly different)
Corner Records - no (could be recorded as misc. document)(not common)

 
Posted : April 18, 2015 10:55 am
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We work in eastern Oregon. If the Corner Records aren't up to snuff when we get there, they are when we leave...

 
Posted : April 18, 2015 11:00 am
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There is apparently a different meaning for "subdivision" in your area than in mine...

Here a "subdivision" simultaneously creates all the parcels in it so that Junior/Senior rights and the problems associated are negated. All of the parcels created have equal standing. Great tool!

 
Posted : April 19, 2015 4:15 pm
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For the record and to be technically correct - Plats (subdivision and partition)
are recorded with the County Clerk in Oregon and also FILED with the County Surveyor.
Records of surveys and OCRRs (Oregon Corner Restoration Records) are FILED with the
County Surveyor.

 
Posted : April 19, 2015 8:57 pm
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WISCONSIN

Subdivision plats - yes - filed with county recorder.

Surveys - yes - filed with county surveyor.

Corner records - yes - filed with county surveyor.

MINNESOTA

Subdivision plats - yes - filed with county recorder.

In St. Paul there are a good many older residential lots described by metes and bounds, similar to what Tommy Young mentions. This practice was brought to an end by recording restrictions that were enacted about 1945.

Surveys - in some individual counties at the option of county board. Recording agency varies. Occasionally attached to deeds.

Corner records - no provision for recording corners set by private surveyors. Some county surveyors have a complete set for the county, others a partial set or only a few; depends on funding.

 
Posted : April 19, 2015 9:14 pm
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Around here the word is a catch all phrase for splitting up a tract into house lots.

 
Posted : April 20, 2015 4:54 am
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