Question about SurvCE - How do you ...

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Good post, I'm in the same boat as you, I had both of these questions as well. . I have recently switch from survey pro to survce and having some trouble to.

I'm using robotics and can't figure out how to double my angles for traversing. I have it set up back sight direct, back sight reverse, fore sight direct, fore sight reverse. But the instrument won't switch to reverse when I'm at the back sight it tells me to go to the foresight instead. Also what is the robotic configuration sequence.
I have a Geomax robot and really like it so far but the horizontal closures haven't been great but I havnt double any thing either....

Also know you can move directly to point in direction stake out from regular stake out by hitting the point in direction box which brings up another pop up.

With point number to point number line calc.s you can also add or subtract angles directly from the line ie 1,2+90 to stake perp.

There are some gems hidden in the appendix of the manual.

I still have been unsuccessful at creating points by parallel slide dictated by a predefined area.

I am also an age old Survey Pro user, and still use it for robotics, though I use SurvCE with the X91+ GNSS.

I am asked to break out the cardinal so many acres, quite frequently, and must dump into Survey Pro to do the cogo.

> 1) Point to line inverse, can it be done? i.e., you define a line by two point, then the inverse gives you the perpendicular distance from a 3rd point to that line. It's a separate command in SurveyPro.
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Here's the step by step for 1):
https://surveyorconnect.com/index.php?mode=thread&id=300625

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I use the predefined area tool in map. Select a closed polyline, input area, BAM! Figure grows or shrinks to match. Just like CAD.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

I have the same problem with doubling angles. I work around it by using the "Set Collection" option, instead of "Store Points." With Set Collection, my instrument will turn a direct and reverse on the backsight before prompting me to move to the foresight.

Seems like I should be able to do this from the "Store Points" screen. Can anyone enlighten us?

I'm using Fast Survey 4.1.13 aka Carlson SURVCE.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

> I have the same problem with doubling angles. I work around it by using the "Set Collection" option, instead of "Store Points." With Set Collection, my instrument will turn a direct and reverse on the backsight before prompting me to move to the foresight.
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> Seems like I should be able to do this from the "Store Points" screen. Can anyone enlighten us?
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> I'm using Fast Survey 4.1.13 aka Carlson SURVCE.

Here's how Shawn Billings answered the same question when I asked it some time ago:

>The set order affects Set Collection. The backsight setting is for regular store points. These settings affect two separate routines. If you only want one set, under sets, check the backsight and sideshot. It will require a d and r for backsight and a d and r for sideshot and mean them. If you want to accumulate several sets use set collection. The set order will affect this.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

I said sideshot - should have said topography (as it is called in SurvCE).

Also, I've had problems with robotics and sets in this mode also. My work around (albeit a poor one) is to turn sets manually at the gun when needed. I suspect Set Collection would work. It used to have problems with mixing prism offsets, so I quit using that in robotics, as I often have a different offset prism on the backsight as I do on the foresight. But I think that was an issue that was supposedly fixed several versions ago.

We have also recently purchased a Carlson with SurvCE. Transitioning from SurveyPro has not been as easy as I had anticipated. I've been writing down questions as they come up to eventually speak with our sales rep/tech support, but here's one that comes to mind:

It seems that you can only remote elevation when you are set on an established bench. Can you set on an unknown elevation(new point) and remote off a bench? Thanks.

-V

Recently I received a Set 330R and in the package was an Allegro CX loaded with SurvCE

I've managed to find and print a manual on each and have not had time to get started with SurvCE.

Looks very promising and a whole different animal that the HP48 SMI v7 CVCE

B-)

Thanks for the help with this. Beerleg rocks!

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

With my software & hardware, Set Collection works well for doubling an angle, so I will keep on doing it that way for now.

I haven't had any problems mixing prism types. I frequently use a -30mm prism at the backsight with a 0mm 360 prism for the foresight.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

> With my software & hardware, Set Collection works well for doubling an angle, so I will keep on doing it that way for now.
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Don't want to hijack the thread, but, when you refer to "doubling an angle", do you mean BS, FS, then BS without resetting the angle? Or do you mean just measuring an angle twice?

I always thought that "doubling an angle" (in the context of the dual plate theodolites), meant measuring the angle, fixing the upper plate, rotating to the BS then measuring again (now reading twice the angle value), then dividing by two.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

> With my software & hardware, Set Collection works well for doubling an angle, so I will keep on doing it that way for now.
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Outside of set collection...you don't.

In the Configure menu, you can choose forward and reverse for topo, stakeout, etc...but it is really only useful for doubling verts. It doesn't really turn a set unless you use Set collection.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

> Don't want to hijack the thread, but, when you refer to "doubling an angle", do you mean BS, FS, then BS without resetting the angle? Or do you mean just measuring an angle twice?
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> I always thought that "doubling an angle" (in the context of the dual plate theodolites), meant measuring the angle, fixing the upper plate, rotating to the BS then measuring again (now reading twice the angle value), then dividing by two.

I believe you are right, regarding the theodolite. But you can accomplish the same goal in different ways.

My software offers more than one option on how to double the angle. I choose to take the shots in this order:

1. Backsight direct
2. Backsight reverse
3. Foresight direct
4. Foresight reverse.

I could choose to take the shots in a different order, but since I'm usually working in robotic mode I do it this way so I don't have to run back and forth between the backsight and foresight.

Question about SurvCE - How do you ...double angles

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> In the Configure menu, you can choose forward and reverse for topo, stakeout, etc...but it is really only useful for doubling verts. It doesn't really turn a set unless you use Set collection.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Why wouldn't this be considered a set, doing it with topo, if you shoot D&R on both your BS and FS?