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I carry a machete so I can cut the rod-mans leg...... just gotta run faster than him!


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 9:40 am
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Monte, post: 450005, member: 11913 wrote: North American Arms .22LR

Do you use this one?


Or this one?


Just curious. What's the trigger like?
Thanks 😎


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 9:55 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 450007, member: 379 wrote: Do you use this one?


Or this one?


Just curious. What's the trigger like?
Thanks 😎

I have a NAA .22 (short) derringer similar to the second photo. Being a single-action it's a little awkward to cock the hammer and then get your fat finger up under the pistol to depress the trigger with any sort of speed due to it's size. The trigger requires a definite tug to fire.

I picked it up as a "aw, ain't that cute" impulse. Aiming it is impossible, but that really doesn't matter. You might be able to hit a 55 gal. drum with it at 5 paces. I call it my "poker-playing boot pistol".


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 10:05 am
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gary_g, post: 450006, member: 1026 wrote: I carry a machete so I can cut the rod-mans leg

If only I had a rod-man...


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 11:22 am
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John Putnam, post: 449893, member: 1188 wrote: The little Beretta I mentioned has a barrel that is about 2 times the length of the shell. I used to be a pretty good shot, I shot in competition when I was a lot younger, but I can't hit an empty beer can at 6 feet with this thing. But it does make a hell of a lot of noise.

Perhaps target practice while the cans are still full would help
Sorry, that one was too easy...


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 11:32 am

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thebionicman, post: 450016, member: 8136 wrote: Perhaps target practice while the cans are still full would help

We used to have an open rifle/pistol range at a county park. I was out there one time when some other people showed up. When I realized they were drinking the beer before plinking at the cans, I left.

That range now has rules and regulations, nothing but paper targets at defined height, and you have to be signed up with them to use it.


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 12:20 pm
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Posted : October 7, 2017 2:16 pm
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thebionicman, post: 450016, member: 8136 wrote: Perhaps target practice while the cans are still full would help
Sorry, that one was too easy...

Haven't drank and shot in decades now. Not to say I did not do that in my youth though.


 
Posted : October 7, 2017 5:51 pm
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John Putnam, post: 450046, member: 1188 wrote: Haven't drank and shot in decades now. Not to say I did not do that in my youth though.

Same here. I've done plenty of launching lead missiles at high speed, but no consumption associated with it in over three decades.

Looking back, I often wonder how I ever made it THIS far...???


The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.

 
Posted : October 7, 2017 5:59 pm
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FL/GA PLS., post: 450007, member: 379 wrote: Or this one?

Just curious. What's the trigger like?

I have this style, but I have considered getting the other one, or at least changing over the grip. I like single action revolvers, so the hammer is not a real concern, it sticks far enough out. The trigger is a bit disappointing, as it just doesn't feel like a normal trigger. But if you are practicing with it on occasion, it gets to feeling ok enough. My biggest gripe is the mid point safety rest. This allows you to carry it with a round in every chamber, but with the hammer locked into a safety notch between chambers. If you can ever get it lined up right.


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 7:35 am

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imaudigger, post: 449951, member: 7286 wrote: I have experienced an occasional failure to feed, or failure to eject on ALL semi-auto firearms I have shot.

Me too. I broke in an SR 9 (Ruger) with 400 rounds of these shown below, and they ain't cheap. Even with an expensive cartridge it still failed to eject several times. I won't use a "range cartridge" at all, too much debris and powder everywhere on the gun, ie: a pain to clean. 😎


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 9:45 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 450131, member: 379 wrote: Me too. I broke in an SR 9 (Ruger) with 400 rounds of these shown below, and they ain't cheap. Even with an expensive cartridge it still failed to eject several times. I won't use a "range cartridge" at all, too much debris and powder everywhere on the gun, ie: a pain to clean. 😎

i like this dude's stuff for good, not-too-pricey ammo: https://underwoodammo.com/


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 10:10 am
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Having surveyed 30+ years in the remote areas of Alaska, I have only seen a survey crew carry a gun a couple times and it was invariably because they were some government crew with more time than work on their hands. - or they were working in town. Simply too much to carry in the field along with all the other equipment. I have chased many bear away with my chainsaw though.


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 11:42 am
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Bear Bait, post: 450151, member: 4459 wrote: ..I have chased many bear away with my chainsaw though.

I'm assuming the chainsaw was running at the time...

I use mine so infrequently that starting it requires several frustrating tugs. Having a bear headed toward me would probably only intensify my confusion and inability to get the damned thing started. I'm guessing you guys keep your chainsaws in top-notch order. 😉


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 11:47 am
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Chainsaw is standard field equipment. I would leave my plumb bob behind way before I would leave chainsaw.
Usually we start every field season with new saw. When I was younger went through two a year. $300 -$400 is a small price to pay for the work those saws do for me and I give them away at end of year to friends that are not surveyors that use them to cut fire wood. Its a win- win.


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 12:14 pm

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When I do carry, it's with a Ruger Redhawk 44 Magnum with a 9 1/2" barrel. I load 25 grains of 2400 behind a 210 gr. linotype bullet and get a chrono'd 1680 fps. A side benefit from 2400 is a nice long yard of flame coming out of the barrel.

With enough practice, you can expect to hit a 5 gallon bucket about 8 out of 10 times at 100 yards. It's only 1300 ft/lbs of energy though, about 3 times a 45's. IOW, don't stop shooting at a threat.

It's only the same energy as a .223, but the bullet will hang together very nicely. Most of them are hard enough to load again with only a swage and lubing. Some may scoff at the load, but I sprung the frame on my old Super Blackhawk with this load.

A Bianchi shoulder holster will carry this on your torso under your arm and keep the weight off your hips.



 
Posted : October 9, 2017 3:45 pm
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wfwenzel, post: 450212, member: 7180 wrote: When I do carry, it's with a Ruger Redhawk 44 Magnum with a 9 1/2" barrel. I load 25 grains of 2400 behind a 210 gr. linotype bullet and get a chrono'd 1680 fps. A side benefit from 2400 is a nice long yard of flame coming out of the barrel.

With enough practice, you can expect to hit a 5 gallon bucket about 8 out of 10 times at 100 yards. It's only 1300 ft/lbs of energy though, about 3 times a 45's. IOW, don't stop shooting at a threat.

It's only the same energy as a .223, but the bullet will hang together very nicely. Most of them are hard enough to load again with only a swage and lubing. Some may scoff at the load, but I sprung the frame on my old Super Blackhawk with this load.

A Bianchi shoulder holster will carry this on your torso under your arm and keep the weight off your hips.

Sounds like a bad hand load or...loaded waaay to hot for the design of the weapon.

I have heard some guys bumping the powder up until the cases start to stick or problems with primer impact, then backing off a little.
That's crazy - good way to shoot a revolver loose.

Even though modern reloading manuals feature significantly reduced loads compared to the earlier editions.


 
Posted : October 9, 2017 4:40 pm
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FL/GA PLS., post: 450131, member: 379 wrote: Me too. I broke in an SR 9 (Ruger) with 400 rounds of these shown below, and they ain't cheap. Even with an expensive cartridge it still failed to eject several times. I won't use a "range cartridge" at all, too much debris and powder everywhere on the gun, ie: a pain to clean. 😎

I have yet to have any issues with any of my revolvers. With that said, I watched a video of a lady "using" 14 rounds to protect herself from home invaders. She sent 3 or 4 rounds towards each of the robbers.
She could have easily used another 14 rounds. Several were hit and at least one was sent to hell.


 
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imaudigger, post: 450225, member: 7286 wrote: Sounds like a bad hand load or...loaded waaay to hot for the design of the weapon.

I have heard some guys bumping the powder up until the cases start to stick or problems with primer impact, then backing off a little.
That's crazy - good way to shoot a revolver loose.

Even though modern reloading manuals feature significantly reduced loads compared to the earlier editions.

It's a Ruger Redhawk. It sets the standard for heavy loads. Have shot the Super Redhawk with 7.5" bbl quite a few times. Never anything as stout as a 210gr bullet at 1680 fps. That's a good one. I like using lead in my reloads too. You get a lot more velocity out of lead opposed to jacketed. I load for 357 and use AA#9 which is very similar to 2400. My favorite load for it is 158 grain LSWC over 12 grains of #9. I get about 1200fps out of my 6" GP100. It's not as hot as the GP100 will go, but it's a true 357 load that is easy to load and fun to shoot.


 
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Monte, post: 450119, member: 11913 wrote: I have this style, but I have considered getting the other one, or at least changing over the grip. I like single action revolvers, so the hammer is not a real concern, it sticks far enough out. The trigger is a bit disappointing, as it just doesn't feel like a normal trigger. But if you are practicing with it on occasion, it gets to feeling ok enough. My biggest gripe is the mid point safety rest. This allows you to carry it with a round in every chamber, but with the hammer locked into a safety notch between chambers. If you can ever get it lined up right.

Speaking of single action. This is how I will treat myself with the end of year bonus, if not sooner

http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkStainless/specSheets/0309.html


N10,000, E7,000, Z100.00
PLS - IL, MO, AR, KS, MN, KY

 
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