I hate finding things like this.
Might as well pound yours in there too, (wherever) It will drive future surveyors nuts. That is, if there are any future surveyors that actually look for corners. 😉
What I normally do in a case like this is take an average of the postions of all the monuments and set a new one. I just make sure mine looks newer and has a fancy cap so everyone in the future uses it.
Actually what I do is pick one of the monuments and use it and call out the location of all the others. Stuff like this will drive you nuts.
David Livingstone, post: 410972, member: 431 wrote: What I normally do in a case like this is take an average of the postions of all the monuments and set a new one. I just make sure mine looks newer and has a fancy cap so everyone in the future uses it.
Actually what I do is pick one of the monuments and use it and call out the location of all the others. Stuff like this will drive you nuts.
If you want yours to be honored make it look oldest, not newest...;^)
Guess I just don't see the problem. Plenty of room for new additions seeing as rehabilitating the original is out.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Ya know, if you run a skid steer bucket across there a couple of times, you wouldn't see all those bits anymore, and could start fresh....
Drive 4 more. Rebar, to form a circle. Then set an axle in the middle. Call the rebar "support rebar".
Just kidding!
Just missing a fence post and a stone to complete the mess. or maybe a few large brass caps with no punch.
my favorite one ever (which i don't have a pic of, of course) was where somebody literally sheared off one side of another guy's cap driving his (uncapped) rebar into the ground.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 410988, member: 291 wrote: Drive 4 more. Rebar, to form a circle. Then set an axle in the middle. Call the rebar "support rebar".
Just kidding!
azimuth points.
The worst instance of this I have seen to date was in an intersection between Alma and Van Buren, Arkansas, for a 1/4 Corner, there was everything from Rebar, 60D nails, Railroad Spikes, Aluminum Cap and PK Nails. There was at least 8 and 7 of them belonged to 1 Surveyor. He is still in business, I left.
Bushwhacker, post: 411011, member: 10727 wrote: There was at least 8 and 7 of them belonged to 1 Surveyor. He is still in business, I left.
There was probably 8, one for the beginning and end of the 4 parcels that share that common corner. Sometimes descriptions don't close mathematically and need two corners, very common in Surveying.
billvhill, post: 411020, member: 8398 wrote: There was probably 8, one for the beginning and end of the 4 parcels that share that common corner. Sometimes descriptions don't close mathematically and need two corners, very common in Surveying.
I have never known of a 1/4 Section Corner to have 7 different positions nor have I read of it in any manuel
Today I found a 1/4 corner marked with two 3" capped pipes, one of them sticking up about 8" and the other flush with the ground, about 1' apart in the woods. I was retracing two plat maps done by reputable surveyors that only mentioned one monument. I meant to get a picture of them but forgot to!
Steve Gilbert, post: 411028, member: 111 wrote: Today I found a 1/4 corner marked with two 3" capped pipes, one of them sticking up about 8" and the other flush with the ground, about 1' apart in the woods. I was retracing two plat maps done by reputable surveyors that only mentioned one monument. I meant to get a picture of them but forgot to!
You most likely found a 1/4 Corner marked with a capped pipe and another pipe nearby...
In the middle of the three mon's on the left, set a 2" brass cap stamped with a LARGE "?" in its center...
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
Or if you want future surveyors to use yours, set a new one and smash all the others (including any that may truly be correct) into the ground where they can't be seen. That outta work too. 🙂
Bushwhacker, post: 411027, member: 10727 wrote: I have never known of a 1/4 Section Corner to have 7 different positions nor have I read of it in any manuel
I just set one and there was a big rock on the way, so I a few reference marks about a foot away. Don't know why anyone would put that rock there?
Wonder if there's a Guiness Book of World Records category for the most number of monuments marking a single point.....hmmmm.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
The thing on the right is laying down, so is disturbed and probably came from the area to the left. That leaves a couple of nails and a larger rod. The nails were probably placed by people who didn't find the shallowly buried rod. Lacking any other evidence, I'd go with the larger rod near the top of the picture. Especially so if it fit measurements well.