We found this little guy doing recon in my hometown today....Sad thing is I think both pins belong to the same guy o.O
[sarcasm]There wasn't enough room to fit caps on both.[/sarcasm]
[sarcasm]Was there room between them to put yours in the correct location?[/sarcasm]
Andy
What the heck is the thought process of a surveyor who does stupid things like that.....or is it only the survey crew who are told to set the "pin" at the exact measured distance?
I wonder if there has ever been a case of an employee who knows he's quitting tomorrow setting about 10 bars with caps in a six-inch diameter area at every corner of the last job he's doing for that company. How many years might it be until someone else finds this minefield?
It would be a lot easier to see the surveyor's number if you hadn't used a black highlighter.
You should maybe try yellow next time.
Don
lol Don!
This is along a fault line. The dirt is moving. Each time he surveys it, he sets a new one, to show where that coordinate is now. Check it in 20 yrs. You will see a row of caps, showing how much time has elapsed, between each survey!
🙂
Nate
> It would be a lot easier to see the surveyor's number if you hadn't used a black highlighter.
> You should maybe try yellow next time.
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> Don
Whoops!....I was thinking about NOT "masking" them but, my conscience got the best of me. And Andy, of course there's room, the correct spot is over there about 3'
Just funnin', of course. You did the right thing.
Don
[sarcasm]Maybe he was closing on a "senior" line and didn't want to bend the perfectly straight line!![/sarcasm]
[sarcasm]probably a PC and a lot corner 0.3' feet apart[/sarcasm]
this is a simple case of the crew not scanning with the Schondstedt before setting the pin. This is the "I done lookd fer it" attitude. just plain old laziness. I always ask my crews to scan again, hell... I will even pay them to look twice!
If I had a crew doing this to me, I would want to know about it. Don't know how I would go about telling the guy, but it needs to be brought to his attention.
> I wonder if there has ever been a case of an employee who knows he's quitting tomorrow setting about 10 bars with caps in a six-inch diameter area at every corner of the last job he's doing for that company. How many years might it be until someone else finds this minefield?
Way to much work if your "quitting tomorrow" and pretty much career suicide if your planning on staying in the industry in this day and age.
Oregon Pincusion
> We found this little guy doing recon in my hometown today....Sad thing is I think both pins belong to the same guy o.O
These two definitely were by the same surveyor. The County Surveyor, no less. Both were documented in separate surveys in his own files. He has gone to his reward now but surveyors in Columbia County will be cursing his name for generations to come.
What's the problem?
It looks like a spike next to an iron rod with cap.
I do this all the time.
I will use spikes for my calculated positions. I don't want to use the IR/C, until all corners are proven.
Yes, this happens too often, but sometimes it is by accident like Your-other-right said when the crew is to lazy. Plus you are in PA (snow-winter), I was re-visiting a corner I had set in the winter and found an iron set by a mentor of mine right next to the one I set (his was there first). I felt like an idiot I had not seen it, PULLED my iron real quick.
I don't want to sound like a broken record... but did you know that IF you pound them real hard, you can FLIP the poles on the rebar, or rod? Instead of coming out the ends, they will come out the sides. Now, you will barely get a signal with the metal detector.
I once found 3 mons by the SAME surveyor, within 0.35' of each other. It was a section corner.
I got a little signal, when I searched with mr Schonestedt. I dug with a PICK, and found all 3 mons.
The answer? IF you pound them hard, touch the top with a magnet. NOW... they will sing like a stuck hog.
Now, if there is snow, and HARD ground in the summer, and mon 1 was set in the summer, then you searched in the snow, I can see this happening. Maybe not this one, but it is a little known fact about our trusty metal detectors.
OK?
Nate
Nate
> This is along a fault line. The dirt is moving. Each time he surveys it, he sets a new one, to show where that coordinate is now. Check it in 20 yrs. You will see a row of caps, showing how much time has elapsed, between each survey!
> 🙂
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> Nate
Yeah...well...that's what he thinks. But the joke's on him. His control points are on a fault line, and the area of the pins are very stable. Every time he surveys in from the control, he stakes out a new point on the stable ground :plumbbob:
OK, now we have the theory of relativitty
Either the trv pt moved, or the ground the mons were set in moved.
There's even some music to go with it!
🙂
Nate
OK, now we have the theory of relativitty
The "theory of relativity".....I like it. It's all in the same place it always was relative to its immediate surroundings. Just because it doesn't fit exactly to a section corner or another controlling corner, doesn't make it wrong. Besides, if you say it does, how do you know which one moved?
Okay...Okay...getting philosophical when it was just a good joke. 😉