Just wondering what fellow surveyors think about this.
There is a gentleman that is licensed in another state. He gets a 30 day reciprocal license in Pennsylvania. He surveys under this "Temporary License" all year. He adds the time for each job together until he reaches 30 days, instead of 30 consecutive days.
Any thoughts? Too me this seems B.S.
reido99, post: 408755, member: 1068 wrote: Too me this seems B.S.
The detector says you are correct...
reido99, post: 408755, member: 1068 wrote: Just wondering what fellow surveyors think about this.
There is a gentleman that is licensed in another state. He gets a 30 day reciprocal license in Pennsylvania. He surveys under this "Temporary License" all year. He adds the time for each job together until he reaches 30 days, instead of 30 consecutive days.
Any thoughts? Too me this seems B.S.
I generally go straight to the source and give folks a chance to straighten up. In this case I would go to the Board. If they don't smack him hard enough, go to your Legislature and eliminate the temporary license.
Surely there are rules on the temporary license, can't you look them up or ask someone? Maybe they allow for that. It does seem strange though. I would hope there is an expiration date on the license itself. I mean it would be easy to say that you only did 2 days on a particular job, and who can argue?
How many states offer a temporary license?
I have never heard of that practice, at least, not in California.
JA, PLS SoCal
In California, it was in effect under PLSA section 8753 (repealed in 2005). It provided for temporary license for a period not to exceed 60 days.
The language of the rule appears to support his actions. I would petition them to eliminate the practice...
I have never heard of this. Does anyone know what states let you use a temporary licenses? Curious about SC.
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They should at least clarify the 30 days. If you go by 24 hours per day, that's 90 eight hour days, over a third of the year not counting weekends. I would think it should be more along the lines of any amount time spent on a project in a day equals one day. Our office is less than five miles from the Ohio border. Conceivably, a Ohio Licensed Surveyor could practice in Pa on a regular basis and never have to pay the license fees or worry about continuing ed. requirements.
Does he do shoddy work or is it just the additional competition that you don't like?
PA PLS, post: 408777, member: 9658 wrote: Conceivably, a Ohio Licensed Surveyor could practice in Pa on a regular basis and never have to pay the license fees or worry about continuing ed. requirements.
As someone licensed originally in Maryland and recently (last month) in Pennsylvania; if someone's experience is predominately from an another state, and they don't have one of these on their desk, there is enough boundary law that is unique to Pennsylvania that something is going to get royally screwed up.
Warren Smith, post: 408770, member: 9900 wrote: In California, it was in effect under PLSA section 8753 (repealed in 2005). It provided for temporary license for a period not to exceed 60 days.
Even when they had it, you could not get one. The board required you sit for the exam before they issued the 'Temporary License'. At lease it was that way when I asked about it in the late 90's early 00's.
John Putnam, post: 408789, member: 1188 wrote: Even when they had it, you could not get one. The board required you sit for the exam before they issued the 'Temporary License'. At lease it was that way when I asked about it in the late 90's early 00's.
That's funny.
imaudigger, post: 408782, member: 7286 wrote: Does he do shoddy work or is it just the additional competition that you don't like?
He does ok work. Just kind of pissed that he can take work away from me and not have to pass the state exam.
reido99, post: 408794, member: 1068 wrote: He does ok work. Just kind of pissed that he can take work away from me and not have to pass the state exam.
I feel like that is the primary argument you have in contacting the State to remove that rule.
reido99, post: 408794, member: 1068 wrote: He does ok work. Just kind of pissed that he can take work away from me and not have to pass the state exam.
If nothing else they should have an abbreviated state specific exam before temp licenses are issued.
By giving him a temp license, your state has basically decided that he has already demonstrated the level of training, education, and experience sufficient to be equivalent to the min. required in your state.
James Fleming, post: 408785, member: 136 wrote: one of these on their desk
That's the Good Book right there!
James Fleming, post: 408785, member: 136 wrote: As someone licensed originally in Maryland and recently (last month) in Pennsylvania; if someone's experience is predominately from an another state, and they don't have one of these on their desk, there is enough boundary law that is unique to Pennsylvania that something is going to get royally screwed up.
Many an attorney and municipal reviewer have received copies from that book. The PA Surveyors Bible.
