The most effective strategy that I've found is to tell real estate peddler: "I'd be glad to discuss this with the buyer if you'll have them give me a call".
Kent McMillan, post: 353042, member: 3 wrote: The most effective strategy that I've found is to tell real estate peddler: "I'd be glad to discuss this with the buyer if you'll have them give me a call".
I am truly glad to see you back here Kent.
Rich., post: 353038, member: 10450 wrote: I'm sorry if my post implied dishonesty. We do not lie if we have the copy. We truly do not have all the old originals. If we don't have it, we say so. If we do, then we say we don't release copies of things that old. We also tell them they are welcome to come and see the copy in person if they would like.
My comment wasn't based solely on your post, there seem to be multiple posts that imply that just saying you don't have it is the way to go.
I envisage the following scenario. Realtor calls Surveyor A asking for copy of 1960 plan, surveyor doesn't want to give it out, but instead of explaining why and proposing a solution, simply tells the realtor the record is lost. Realtor tells buyer, buyer says @#$% it, we don't need no stinkin survey, deal closes. Five years later said buyer is proposing an addition, code enforcement says they need a survey as the lot is tight. Buyer contracts Surveyor B to perform boundary survey, in process of disclosing facts buyer tells Surveyor B that old plan is no longer in existence, per Surveyor A. Surveyor B doesn't bother contacting Surveyor A because its lost, no need for extra leg work. Meanwhile 1960 plan shows old barbed wire fence along a tricky boundary line. Surveyor B doesn't have any reason to think there may be remnants of the fence in the ground, because he's never seen the plan. Surveyor B determines boundary line based on best available evidence, locates line 4' from where it was surveyed (let's assume correctly) in 1960.
All this because Surveyor A didn't want the confrontation or uncomfortable conversation with the realtor in the first place. Possibly far fetched, but ya know.
On the subject of dishonesty, sometime a white lie is the easiest way to not do what someone wants without wasting your time and furnishing a product that you know is no good and not in the best interest of the public. Sort of like it's easier to beg forgiveness than it is to ask permission to go on someone property. If you have been in this business long enough you realize that they are mostly asking for the copy of the survey so that the owner can sign an owners affidavit of no survey changes -- and bypass the cost of a survey. I've seen this more times than I care to count, I've even had RA ask me for a kickback for placing the order with us. Of course that didn't happen. Just thoughts....
McWilliams v. Zedlitz, 742 SW 2d 929 - Ark: Supreme Court 1988
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=12701667903393300865&hl=en&as_sdt=1006&apos ;">McWilliams v. Zedlitz
"In May 1984, Aaron Zedlitz contacted the county clerk in an attempt to secure a copy of the plat filed by McWilliams, only to discover that no such plat had been filed. In the process, he found the plat of a prior survey performed in 1980 by the county surveyor. A copy of the McWilliams survey, which was performed in November 1983, was filed with the clerk on September 7, 1984. Notations on the McWilliams survey indicate that McWilliams knew of and made use of the preexisting survey, although he had informed the Zedlitzes the property had not been previously surveyed."
DDSM:beer:
SWMBO: Do these pants make my butt look big?
YOU: No.
(technically correct as the butt was big to start with and the pants can't do anything about that)
I think that qualifies as a legitimate white lie that will save you grievous injury.
Holy Cow, post: 353063, member: 50 wrote: SWMBO: Do these pants make my butt look big?
Holy Cow, post: 353063, member: 50 wrote: SWMBO: Do these pants make my butt look big?
YOU: No.(technically correct as the butt was big to start with and the pants can't do anything about that)
I think that qualifies as a legitimate white lie that will save you grievous injury.
This is solid advice. I know this because the answer of "No, your butt looks big all on its own." is definitely the WRONG answer, true or not.