I did a survey for three lots for a large house in 2004, need to resurvey it, send out the pc, can't make anything match, finally I can go over it with him, seems the two I figured would remain undisturbed have new electric boxes............
.6', wish they would just pull them out and leave them on the ground,,,,,,,,,,,,
Speaking of such things put me in mind of my find yesterday. In 1992 a crew surveying for a highway did full section breakdowns for one mile either side of the highway. Set any missing center corners at that time. Great work with great documentation available at the courthouse.
Fast forward to 2016. We need to split the southwest quarter. The buyer/client tells me that the center corner monument will be easy to find because the seller very carefully pulled the bar/cap, centered the post hole digger on that point, set a vertical 8" pipe for a corner post with welded brace posts in both directions, then poured concrete in the pipe post and put the bar/cap in the center of the pipe. While working on the project yesterday the seller comes driving up to where I'm set up. He tells me the same story. Our distance between the southwest section corner monument and the south quarter corner monument are dead on the 1992 numbers. So, using that info, I plotted where we should have found the center corner monument and compared that to our shot on the aluminum cap now about 1/4" above the top of the pipe. My point is 0.04 feet north and 0.04' west of the 1992 reported location of the bar/cap when it was in the ground. Should I report on my plat as follows: FOUND ALUMINUM CAP 0.04' N & 0.04' W OF TRUE CORNER?:-O
MightyMoe, post: 352807, member: 700 wrote: .6', wish they would just pull them out and leave them on the ground,,,,,,,,,,,,
Me too, we work exclusively in new, production home construction. The following is a partial list of some of the "cool stuff" from other subcontractors we encounter. ( SOME OF WHOM WILL REPLACE THE CORNER WHERE THEY "THUNK" IT WAS )
1. Irrigation contractors: Some do some don't, upon their replacement they are usually within a foot or two.
2. Fence contractors: Some are prudent and request a copy of the survey, others follow the property corners reset by the irrigation contractors.
3. Homeowners: Hell, they replace everything anywhere and then blame it on the Surveyor.
You do have to understand this is Florida, where an "ESTATE MANSION PROPERTY" is any parcel between 40 and 60 feet wide.
But wait, there's more! If the "ESTATE MANSION PROPERTY" happens to have a retention pond behind it, it is then referred to as an "EXECUTIVE ESTATE MANSION WATERFRONT PROPERTY" with about 18 asterisks after it.
B-)
Mr Cow, please remember there is a sarcasm font available that would possibly prevent some newbie who may actually take that seriously......
Yup, that was sarcasm alright. Gotta learn how to do that some day.[sarcasm]Gosh Sgt. Carter, golly gee[/sarcasm]
Wellllll, I'll be jiggered.
Mr. Cow: you left the delta Z out of your corner note...
MightyMoe, post: 352807, member: 700 wrote: I did a survey for three lots for a large house in 2004, need to resurvey it, send out the pc, can't make anything match, finally I can go over it with him, seems the two I figured would remain undisturbed have new electric boxes............
.6', wish they would just pull them out and leave them on the ground,,,,,,,,,,,,
My favourite one was on a subdivision I laid out when I was first out of college and still learning the ropes. We were out staking rough grade for the next phase of a subdivision. The PC told me to go over to one of the back of lots (where we had set monuments already in the previous phase) and give him a check shot to make sure our setup was good. You know, normal procedure for doing radial stake out via coordinate geometry.
I dig up the corner, which is about a tenth off of the fence there, and give him a shot. He said the angle was good, but the distance was short about 2 tenths. So I go up to the next lot corner and dig that up (again about a tenth off of the fence) and give him a shot. Line was a little off and distance was off 3 tenths. Next corner, similar results.
So we get to looking and we start to realize that the fencing contractor was pulling our pipes out, setting his posts in that place, and then replacing our pipes next to his fence posts! And this had likely happened on every single lot corner in all of the phases that had been done. So at least 100 monuments.
Our boss had a lengthy and heated discussion with the job superintendent that afternoon.