You'd probably be out of your league here even if I wasn't here. I have no problem whatsoever determining the metes and bound for all the areas I intend to describe. Like I said...it ain't brain surgery!
I simply asked the best way to deal with a closing gap under a set of circumstances and it somehow turned into a posting where every member of this damn site had to take their turn attacking me!
I do have to admit that it has been amusing. I just hope I don't bust a gut laughing at the collective childish tantrum of all the surveyors here that act like arrogant clowns!
I'll just let you guess whether you're included in that little group of not.
Again, I say do the bounds, don't worry about the metes. Write a simple description that describes what you want to claim. You could describe it on (not sure how this works in Texas but where I'm at it would work-kind of) an Exhibit A which would contain the description of your claim, reference an Exhibit B which would be a drawing of the lot and house.
So you write a description on Exhibit A of the master bed and bath "as shown on Exhibit B attached hereto and by this referenced made a part hereof" or some such language. That way you don't need to survey the house just describe the house and rooms you want with a drawing attached to explain the layout. No metes that way. You can do the metes if you are worried about it, but the bounds will be what controls the location. Even if the metes are incorporated into the description it should be in a format that makes them clearly subservient to the bounds.
I want all you guys to quit harranging him about the tenth and his description. If you p*** him off he won't come back with the results. I'm with those who say we are making way too big a deal out of this. He starts at one of the lot corners, slides down the property line, cuts over 90 degrees from the lot line to the house adjusting the offset distance to get inside the walls, and writes a legal following the walls for the rooms he is claiming. Easy Peasey-NBD. I want to see the finished document and what the judge does with it. FWIW, H.A., I don't think it's going to work but the concept interests me. Please follow up. I told you they were a little cranky- NBD. Take the free advice and ignore the rest. Discussions of Politics and Religion have been banned here (can't imagine why) and everyone has been forced to play nice-nice. You are the first individual in months that offered a legitimate target to let off a little steam without getting banned or reprimanded. 😛
So if I understand correctly, you're saying denote the bearing and distances from a POB around each specific area I'm seeking to claim but not tie any POB to any lot boundary or monument by denote a bearing and distance from the monument to the POB but simply rely on something like "Beginning at the NW corner of the house foundation....etc"?
If that is what you are saying, it makes a lot of sense to me. It allows me to get on record and I can then have a real surveyor do a real survey later on.
I am tiring of this dimwit
This entire thread reminds me of the fellow who had to be fired from his job as a special education teacher. I was a member of the combined School Board for the Special Education Cooperative representing one of the eight school districts that owned and operated the Cooperative. The teacher that had to be terminated had been doing things around junior high-age female students that most definitely qualifed as offenses subject to immediate termination. I had to participate in the due process hearing that was convened to assure that everyone's rights, including his, were upheld properly. He never denied that inappropriate behavior had occured. His number one justification as to why he COULD NOT be terminated was that he claimed to have an IQ of 146. This was repeated many times throughout the hearing. Eventually, I had to inform him that when I sat down at the breakfast table each morning in my home there were at least three people present who had higher IQ's than his. Hence, I was not at all impressed.
I find it appalling when otherwise intelligent people refuse to accept the concept that other people actually know a great deal more than they do on a specific topic. Mr. HardAssets should listen with his mouth closed and his fingers in his pockets.
Yes, I realize that I have now become the latest mental midget in the corner.
As strange as it may sound, I have garnered some good advice here and I do appreciate it. I guess I should have expected comments and questions like "Why wasn't there a will?" once I allowed that door to be opened but I didn't come here for advice along those lines. I came looking for technical advice.
I certainly wouldn't want to be the cause of anyone getting banned. Somebody would have to get really stupid for me to ever register any complaint.
Besides....I can throw it right back!
😉
Some of us might have a moral or ethical problem offering advice that it seems may be used in an attempt to use the legal system as a hammer. Not that it doesn't happen all the time.
The honorable thing to do might be to submit an invoice for the remodeling, minus rent.
But I admit I don't know all the facts and may have the wrong impression.
Uh kind of. The actual description of what you want is what I mean. I don't want to put words into the description but the bearings and distances are the metes. They really aren't all that important. What is important is to bound your description by describing the bounds in the description.
The walls, ceiling and floor of the living room to the center of the wall studs or the paint on the walls and the floor to the bottom of the carpet or whatever you are claiming. Then add metes and call out the bounds as you follow the bounds with the metes if you want some kind of metes in the description.
Latest Mental Midget?
Dude...keep studying and maybe one attain the level of mental midget. What kind of an asshat would make the kind of comparison you just did? The only thing that makes your post even halfway interesting is how you stupidly reveal that you HAD to let some sort of pervert go. I guess I missed the part where you called the police and made sure he was prosecuted to make sure it didn't happen anywhere else. Did you forget to do that or did you, in your infinite wisdom, determine he should just walk away? I guess you just got tired of dealing with it?
Needless to say, I'm not at all impressed either!
I certainly hope you represent the bottom of the barrel here!
Don't worry, my friend, no one is going to get banned because of you.:-P
Everyone's just having a lot of fun at your expense, and it appears that you're too arrogant to realize it.
Doesn't matter, most of us are arrogant, too.
Some realize they are, others don't.
Don
Alan!!!
I just spit beer on my phone reading that !!
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> The lot perimeter measurements on the copy of the survey I have are.....
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> S89d24'10"E 105.15
> S00d40'30"W 60.75
> N89d24'10"W 105.10
> N00d37'40"E 60.75
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Just curious - has anyone else on this board taken this data and calculated the misclosure for kicks?
I get far less than a 0.1'! Did I miss something? (Disclaimer: I am not a PLS, PS, RLS, etc., I've just been around the block a lot for a long time.)
(Yo, Dan Patterson, I'll see your "Wow" and raise you a "Holy Cow!") o.O 🙂
So are you saying that it isn't important to tie the house to a point on the lot such as an iron rod in the NW corner? I guess that's what confusing me. Without a tie to the lot, the areas are only referenced to the house itself.
I'm not arrogant! I'm bulletproof! Get it right!
The bounds are the controlling portion of you description. The mathematical closure is less important. Make sure you are specific with the bounds.
"Beginning at the NW corner of the master bedroom; thence easterly along the northern wall of said room to a point intersecting the western wall of the master bathroom; thence southerly along the western wall of said bathroom" etc.
Essentially you are describing corner monuments this way. The monument holds over the bearing and distances.
You can add metes if you want, but not being a surveyor and being that mathematic specific, is what tics these guys off most.
I will not advise on the legal aspect because I do not know Texas law. Neither am I familiar with any statutes about what constitutes surveying without a license in Texas. As I have said to other posters, the best advice usually comes from posters in your same state as they are most knowledgeable on similar situations in your area.
As others have said, please update us will the final results of your case. This is an interesting situation.
Edit: I am not in your state. My advice is not best.
:good: That sounds right.
🙂 :good:
Don
Regarding Your Gap
We are professional surveyors and cannot render you any opinion without first performing a survey. Any advice given you in that matter may cause great liability to the giver. Get a survey or not, but professional advice, especially professional advice that requires considerable research is worthy of a fee.
Paul in PA
> I'm not arrogant! I'm bulletproof! Get it right
B-) Stick around, you're fitting in just fine!!
Cheers and GL
