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Andy Nold
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My company has been pushing me to get registered in numerous other states. I have been approved to sit for the Oklahoma test in October and my Arkansas app should be approved at the next board meeting. Kansas application is almost completed.

Lately, I have been studying Martian Coordinate Systems in the event that oil is found there. It appears that the latest system runs increasing longitude value to the east. I know that the crater known as Airy-0 is the basis of the prime meridian, but it is 0.31 miles across, so I think we need to send a crew to survey the bounds of the crater and come up with a definite center point. I can think of a few precise surveyors who I would want to see on Mars, determining the exact center of the crater. Of course, it would probably have to be conventional field work due to the lack of GPS signals. I wonder if there is some method to determine the true boundary of a crater, similar to the Texas gradient boundary for riparian boundaries. That would make for some nice billable hours.


 
Posted : August 13, 2012 10:39 am
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Martian Riparian Rights

I haven't checked Clarke yet, but I'm pretty sure there used to be water on Mars...so you might have a hard time figuring out what was accretion and what was avulsion.

If I remember right, the boundary is normal high crater. You'd better check with Kent McMillimeter on that, though.


 
Posted : August 13, 2012 11:02 am
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Be careful! 0.04' on earth is 0.08' on Mars. Sending the wrong crew would result in YEARS of head scratching.


 
Posted : August 13, 2012 11:09 am
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looks like i might be seeing you in Okie Andy- been approved to take the test- just need to "reserve" my seat thru NCEES..


 
Posted : August 13, 2012 11:16 am
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GIS

Can't you have a GIS professional do it? Much faster and cheaper.

Wow...a lot of exams coming up for you. Good luck.


 
Posted : August 13, 2012 11:24 am

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You and your company can fiddle around with all the oil and riparian rights you want, just keep away from the diamond fields me and Paden’s nun staked and claimed last weekend.

Have a great week! B-)

Good luck on your upcoming exams.


 
Posted : August 13, 2012 11:42 am
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Well, after only 8 years from the OP, I am sitting for the Kansas Exam tomorrow.?ÿ

Not sure if we have enough artificial satellites orbiting mars to begin a nascient GPS service, but I'm not pursuing registration there any time soon.


 
Posted : July 19, 2020 9:17 pm
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@andy-nold

Best wishes, my friend.


 
Posted : July 19, 2020 9:44 pm
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Good luck!?ÿ


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PLS - IL, MO, AR, KS, MN, KY

 
Posted : July 20, 2020 4:56 am
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The GISers are ready for you.

https://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0404/mapmars3of3.html

?ÿ


 
Posted : July 20, 2020 8:05 am

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I was active in the design of an electronic circuit library that was adapted for the IBM RISC-6000 microprocessor. That was used in the main computers of the Martian rovers Spirit and Opportunity. I guess that makes me a Martian engineer.

Best wishes to Andy on the exam.


 
Posted : July 20, 2020 12:05 pm
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We will probably have a useful constellation in place by the time a field crew gets there. Some lowballer will still bid it to eat travel time and single epoch rtk ties...


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 12:29 pm
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Thanks, all. I felt pretty good on the first part. Not so much on the second. I should have spent more time on the 1855 Manual of Instructions, I spent too much time reviewing the 2009 manual. I guessed some of those questions but when I looked them up later, I had guessed correctly. My biggest problem was having to do coordinate geometry manually since I did not have a programmed HP35s. I just flat ran out of time on a couple of the math questions. I suppose I will know for sure in 4-6 weeks.

There were 6 guys attempting the exam. 5 were from out of state and multi-licensees (one guy had 12 other states already), with 4 taking the test for the first time and the 5th retaking the second part of the test. The 6th guy was a Kansan who had passed his FS and PS and was taking the state specific for the first time to get his first license. The proctor said she normally only has 1-2 people attempting this test but because of the Covid-19 they did not offered the test in April and May and had a backlog of applicants.

The testing location was the old office building for the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railroad which was pretty cool.


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 12:40 pm
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MSPS (Martian Society of Professional Surveyors ) was in a ruckus over the acceptance or rejection of the Intergalactic foot (Based on 6 toes) the IGF VS the Martian Survey foot (3 toes) ?ÿthe MSF when Marvin showed up and disintegrated the Intergalactic contingent- him being a Staunch Martian planetist and all... after all they got to earth using the Martian Survey foot- no need to change now...


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 12:53 pm
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@andy-nold best of luck...


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 12:57 pm

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@andy-nold

I'm sure that you did fine. Especially after studying for nearly 8 years! I doubt that you will have to wait weeks for results. When I wrote in OK they had the results before I got back to the office 20 minutes after leaving.

There were 5 other people there that day, all comity applicants. I didn't think that the test was extraordinarily taxing. But only 2 new numbers were issued at that time, one of them to me.  


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 12:58 pm
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Posted by: @rankin_file

How long before somebody pincushions the Point of Beginning for Martian coordinates??ÿ Or have they already?


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 1:25 pm
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Posted by: @bill93

Just in case anyone cares, here's a definition for MCS.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19730023999.pdf


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 4:19 pm
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@rankin_file

Somebody in a group of Martians almost always gets off on the wrong foot.


 
Posted : July 21, 2020 5:15 pm
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@andy-nold

That building is where my oldest daughter and her husband both worked before the big pull out to Fort Worth by the railroad.


 
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