Anyone know what this is. It looks like a storm drain lid but there are no storm drains in the area. The telephone manholes are labeled AT&T and the electric manholes are labeled Tucson Electric, so I don't think it is one of those. I've never seen those markings before.
[sarcasm]Big Frackking Cover Water COmpany Manhole[/sarcasm]
wcom was worldcom, one of the first "alternative" long distance companies. Not sure what BFC means, but most likely there are fiber optic cables in there.
John Hamilton, post: 326595, member: 640 wrote: wcom was worldcom, one of the first "alternative" long distance companies. Not sure what BFC means, but most likely there are fiber optic cables in there.
Buried Fiber Cable? looks like a communications pull vault
We all recognize a BFH when we see one. I think the C stands for Circle.
BFC is Brooks Fiber Communications, which was acquired by WorldCom. Most likely successor company would be Verizon Business. BFC was a fiber company used for local access.
Is this not a question for One Call?
Even if you find out exactly who the manhole belongs to, if you do not have a One Call serial number on record you are still liable.
I worked on a project that ripped out one of the first fiber optic cables, right under the watchful eye of ATT engineers.
Paul in PA
Paul in PA, post: 326645, member: 236 wrote: Is this not a question for One Call?
Even if you find out exactly who the manhole belongs to, if you do not have a One Call serial number on record you are still liable.
I worked on a project that ripped out one of the first fiber optic cables, right under the watchful eye of ATT engineers.
Paul in PA
Ha. In this area just try and get cooperation or something intelligent out of BlueStake (our One Call).
timothyhohara, post: 326627, member: 92 wrote: BFC is Brooks Fiber Communications, which was acquired by WorldCom. Most likely successor company would be Verizon Business. BFC was a fiber company used for local access.
Thank you. Exactly what I needed. Makes sense too.
I am amazed at how lax these utility companies are about marking their fiber optic cables.
Most of the time it is necessary to follow up with the utility companies after I put in a USA-Locate ticket.
If you hold their hand long enough, they will make it out there to mark the buried utilities.
Around here, unless you are digging a hole, One Call will laugh at you. We have to hire a private company to locate dry utilities. Wet utilities are another story.
Bruce Small, post: 326668, member: 1201 wrote: Ha. In this area just try and get cooperation or something intelligent out of BlueStake (our One Call).
moosetmj, post: 326736, member: 6761 wrote: Around here, unless you are digging a hole, One Call will laugh at you. We have to hire a private company to locate dry utilities. Wet utilities are another story.
Yep, getting a design ticket is pretty tough, you gotta be digging. However, it never hurts to fib a little when you call them. Call it in, and tell them you are surveying bore hole locations. When they ask where they are going, tell them anywhere on the property, the truck will drill in the clear areas be be dertimed at the time of digging. Trust me, they will mark the whole place - and they never know that the bore company decided to not do the soil samples after it was marked. B-)
My standard Op for the last 5 years.
toivo1037, post: 326737, member: 973 wrote: Yep, getting a design ticket is pretty tough, you gotta be digging. However, it never hurts to fib a little when you call them. Call it in, and tell them you are surveying bore hole locations. When they ask where they are going, tell them anywhere on the property, the truck will drill in the clear areas be be dertimed at the time of digging. Trust me, they will mark the whole place - and they never know that the bore company decided to not do the soil samples after it was marked. B-)
My standard Op for the last 5 years.
I have religiously lied to Texas811 for about 10 years now stating that I'm digging 4' holes (anything deeper than 16") and at various intervals on the subject property and within the r/w of the roads. If you tell them you need it for surveying, they blow you off, so I lie.
A few years ago we had a speaker from the "Call Okie" utility locate service at the Annual OSLS Convention. He basically admitted that the easiest way to get buried utilities located for "design" and not actual excavation was to simply lie about it. We do, and have been since before he told us to....
Minor exaggeration works well for me. What works exceptionally well is to report that we will be digging with a backhoe to locate survey stones set in the 1850's-60's and we are simply guessing on where we need to dig. For some reason, they have no problem with that at all.
Don't feel bad in NC we are supposed to call before we set pins. Good luck getting anybody to come out and locate for that.
The Ohio one call is getting better about talking with our professional association. I posted before, https://surveyorconnect.com/threads/utility-locate-law.186185/#post-186305&apos ;">Jan. 2014, about a local chapter meeting that helped begin the process.