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(@wfwenzel)
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Morning guys,

Yesterday went out on a simple 1 pin stake out and my Leica 1205 TCRP R300 robotic total station wouldn't lock on the backsight.

Further examination revealed that it would shoot a distance and lock intermittently at about 12 feet, but not much more. The internal EDM strength meter showed no bar. There wasn't the characteristic "click" noise of the EDM working either. The reflectorless mode works just fine.

Prior to getting the serial number lowdown from Kara Company, I thought I'd explore a few options with the Board's Leica users.

I have an integrated system (GNSS/GPS 1230 antenna and RX1250 data collector) that I've been using. No complaints with the GNSS/GGPS 1230, but since I've upgraded the firmware to handle the GNSS, the RX1250 is infernally slow. I think that the upgraded firmware size has exceeded the capacity of the RX1250 processor. The RX1250 firmware isn't the best either.

I could upgrade to a used, say TS12 and/or get a used CS15 VIVA controller. I assume it would work with the GNSS/GPS 1230 antenna. Right?

So, would the CS15 be worth it in speed and productivity? Is there a better controller that would work even better as long as I'm making the jump? I like a large screen, powerful software, good graphics, ability to see the screen in daylight (hard on the RX1250), and color. And speed.

Oh, and at my age, I can't jump into a new system and recoup the cost, so it should be used/demo.

 
Posted : September 7, 2016 7:33 am
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Keep me in mind if you want to sell that RX1250.

 
Posted : September 7, 2016 9:08 am
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half bubble, post: 390025, member: 175 wrote: Keep me in mind if you want to sell that RX1250.

I have a rx1250 with color screen and the Windows system. I ran Survce on it with my 1203 until the radio went out in the 1250. I never fixed the radio and I bought an allegro when that happened. Email me apsurveying at g mail if you are interested. I would be willing to part with it.

 
Posted : September 8, 2016 9:37 pm
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Setup the instrument and sight at something across a fairly large area and goto the object sighted and look at the instrument and see if the beam is hitting the object.
Someone gave me a Zeiss Elta __ to adjust. It had no visual sign of being dropped. Apparently it had been thru some shock while in the box or bed of a truck because the emitter was over 2min out and beyond knob adjusting. Took a trip to the shop to fix.

 
Posted : September 8, 2016 10:37 pm
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Sounds like you may have a malfunctioning ATR camera which is why it wouldn't lock on to the prism. I'm guessing your EDM is ok. The first thing I would do is go through your field cal routine ( http://www.precision-geosystems.com/?media_dl=575&v=7516fd43adaa ), specifically the ATR calibration. It could just be that things are out of whack. If after you've completed that, you do a PowerSearch to get locked on a prism and it keeps switching from the circle with the cross (lock) symbol to binoculars then back to lock you most likely have a bad ATR camera. When this happens it's not uncommon to have better functionality at close range.

The used TS12 P and CS15 would certainly be a nice upgrade, but unfortunately the CS15 won't work with your ATX1230 GG antenna. You would have to upgrade to a GS08, GS12, GS14, or GS15 receiver.

The CS15 screen is a huge improvement over the RX1250 color version in terms of readability in sunlight. I think it's your best bet if you want to stick with used Leica and SmartWorx, but having to upgrade your GPS is unfortunate.

Let me know if I can be of further help getting you back on track.

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Posted : September 8, 2016 11:44 pm
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wfwenzel, post: 389989, member: 7180 wrote:

...a used CS15 VIVA controller. I assume it would work with the GNSS/GPS 1230 antenna. Right?

As already mentioned, the answer is no.

So, would the CS15 be worth it in speed and productivity?

A CS15 is in a different league, speed wise, when compared to an RX controller. The CS15 doesn't stop to think about things much whereas the RX engages in long periods of contemplation. The map panning and zoom speed is fantastic.

But you will need to see if the non-plus series 1200 jiggers can use a radio handle (RH15). If not then you'll need to find an external radio that will communicate with the CS15.

 
Posted : September 9, 2016 1:14 am
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wfwenzel, post: 389989, member: 7180 wrote: upgraded firmware

I would hope this is not the culprit.

Try the ATR camera calibration routine recommened above and report back here with the results.

I worry about this day coming in my future.

 
Posted : September 9, 2016 3:18 am
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wfwenzel,

I had very similar experience with my 1201 and it was battery. I couldn't believe it. I wasn't able to lock or shoot the distance larger than 100 feet. Hope it's the same cause with your instrument...

 
Posted : September 15, 2016 4:21 pm
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Hi Wayne,

Wish I'd have stumbled onto this before I sent it off. One can only cross his fingers and hope. I did pass this along to the tech that has the machine.

 
Posted : September 23, 2016 10:58 am
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Brad Ott, post: 390280, member: 197 wrote: I would hope this is not the culprit.

Try the ATR camera calibration routine recommened above and report back here with the results.

I worry about this day coming in my future.

It will be an expensive one.

 
Posted : September 23, 2016 11:00 am
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Precision-geo-inc, post: 390271, member: 9801 wrote: Sounds like you may have a malfunctioning ATR camera which is why it wouldn't lock on to the prism. I'm guessing your EDM is ok. The first thing I would do is go through your field cal routine ( http://www.precision-geosystems.com/?media_dl=575&v=7516fd43adaa ), specifically the ATR calibration. It could just be that things are out of whack. If after you've completed that, you do a PowerSearch to get locked on a prism and it keeps switching from the circle with the cross (lock) symbol to binoculars then back to lock you most likely have a bad ATR camera. When this happens it's not uncommon to have better functionality at close range.

The used TS12 P and CS15 would certainly be a nice upgrade, but unfortunately the CS15 won't work with your ATX1230 GG antenna. You would have to upgrade to a GS08, GS12, GS14, or GS15 receiver.

The CS15 screen is a huge improvement over the RX1250 color version in terms of readability in sunlight. I think it's your best bet if you want to stick with used Leica and SmartWorx, but having to upgrade your GPS is unfortunate.

Let me know if I can be of further help getting you back on track.

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Hi Wayne,

Wish I'd have stumbled onto this before I sent it off. One can only cross his fingers and hope. I did pass this along to the tech that has the machine.

Much obliged.

 
Posted : September 23, 2016 11:01 am
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Got machine back. $1600 with some maintenance. That was the problem.

In the meantime, got new stuff, Leica TS12, GS16, and CS20. Learning old dog new tricks.

 
Posted : November 15, 2016 5:01 am
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@wfwenzel Hello,

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Sorry to jump on your old thread. I just have a few questions as I am currently having problems with a TCA1105plus on my own.

- Which workshop did the maintenance for your instrument?

- Is there another Field Calibration routine that works for 1100 series that you are aware of?

- From my understanding it seems that the firmware upgrade wasn't the problem. Am I wrong?

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Thanks a ton for your answer.

 
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