Sudden ferocious bursts of energy or measured steady application of effort.
As a solo operator, I find that tenacity is the key to meeting objectives more so than intensity. Perhaps this is different in a multi-tiered enterprise. I may need to stay a little later, perhaps until dark, but I plan for the long game over lots of hurried action. When I'm hurried, I miss things or make mistakes. When I'm persistent, I still advance but I have time to check my progress and evaluate my execution.
I think some surveyors have a sincere work ethic, but they focus on activity instead of results. Sometimes the two are correlated, but not always. There are times when intensity is the key to accomplishing a task, but in general, I think tenacity is the better approach. Outline the goals, plan carefully what will be needed to achieve those goals and then execute the plan precisely.
[SARCASM][/SARCASM]If'n ya cain't set up over a pint in under five secunds, yer a wuss, and shud be farred.[SARCASM][/SARCASM]
how due ya git dis danged sarcasm font ta wook
In the paper, rock, scissors game of surveying, flexibility to tweek plans on the fly to seize opportunities can beat tenacity and intensity. One eye on the big picture and the other on the details. Often opportunities go overlooked when one's focus is completely on one, or the other.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Williwaw, post: 449329, member: 7066 wrote: In the paper, rock, scissors game of surveying, flexibility to tweek plans on the fly to seize opportunities can beat tenacity and intensity. One eye on the big picture and the other on the details. Often opportunities go overlooked when one's focus is completely on one, or the other.
Man! i wholly believe that, it's true more often than not. 'Well started is well finished' is fine .. if you have a breadth of experience in certain situations.
'No Battle Plan Survives Contact With the Enemy'
~ Helmuth von Moltke ~
Shawn Billings, post: 449294, member: 6521 wrote: Sudden ferocious bursts of energy or measured steady application of effort.
In contract negotiations I use a mild form of tenacity combined with intensity. But never aggressiveness.
I??m not solo, just a small business (15 employees) all our survey activities are treated differently. 😎
Williwaw, post: 449329, member: 7066 wrote: In the paper, rock, scissors game of surveying, flexibility to tweek plans on the fly to seize opportunities can beat tenacity and intensity. One eye on the big picture and the other on the details. Often opportunities go overlooked when one's focus is completely on one, or the other.
I don't know that tenacity and flexibility are necessarily at odds. I think intensity often is at odds with flexibility, bigger hammer...
I'm trying to understand how one can quantify 'tenacity' and 'intensity' or if it matters if one could.
Tenacity can be a flaw in decision making.
A word that has fell out of time is industry as related to industriousness. If you're familiar with Benjamin Franklin's writings, it was included in his 13 virtues of success that he wrote as a young man.
The character trait of industry consisted of careful and persistent diligence.
Consciousness would also be included.
Shawn Billings, post: 449338, member: 6521 wrote: I don't know that tenacity and flexibility are necessarily at odds. I think intensity often is at odds with flexibility, bigger hammer...
Well to illustrate, a few minutes ago my intensity to focus on the details of a job I'm doing inadvertently caused me to disregard the posted speed limit, soon followed by flashing police lights. Told the officer I have no excuse for speeding, which he must have found refreshing as he let me off with a warning. Intensity can make me blind to the otherwise obvious. I agree tenacity and flexibility are not mutually exclusive.
Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.
Persistence and tenacity are synonyms.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/101882.Calvin_Coolidge&apos ;">
??Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.?
?? https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/101882.Calvin_Coolidge&apos ;">Calvin Coolidge
I think that same quote was used in the movie "Founder" about Ray Crock, founder of McDonalds. I guess he may have been inspired by it as well. It rings true to my observations of successful people.
Wow! Being able to dismiss talent, education, and genius - in one quote - is pretty intense. 😮
lmbrls, post: 449360, member: 6823 wrote: Persistence and tenacity are synonyms.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/101882.Calvin_Coolidge&apos ;">
??Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan Press On! has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.?
?? https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/101882.Calvin_Coolidge&apos ;">Calvin Coolidge
Sound like a quote that Thomas Edison might use to berate Nicola Tesla.
Alvin Tostick, post: 449343, member: 13000 wrote: Consciousness
Shawn Billings, post: 449361, member: 6521 wrote: I think that same quote was used in the movie "Founder" about Ray Crock, founder of McDonalds. I guess he may have been inspired by it as well. It rings true to my observations of successful people.
I saw that movie - It was not a flattering portrait of Mr Kroc.
R.J. Schneider, post: 449364, member: 409 wrote: Wow! Being able to dismiss talent, education, and genius - in one quote - is pretty intense. 😮
What? Never met a deadbeat genius?
Shawn Billings, post: 449294, member: 6521 wrote: Sudden ferocious bursts of energy or measured steady application of effort.
As a solo operator, I find that tenacity is the key to meeting objectives more so than intensity. Perhaps this is different in a multi-tiered enterprise. I may need to stay a little later, perhaps until dark, but I plan for the long game over lots of hurried action. When I'm hurried, I miss things or make mistakes. When I'm persistent, I still advance but I have time to check my progress and evaluate my execution.
I think some surveyors have a sincere work ethic, but they focus on activity instead of results. Sometimes the two are correlated, but not always. There are times when intensity is the key to accomplishing a task, but in general, I think tenacity is the better approach. Outline the goals, plan carefully what will be needed to achieve those goals and then execute the plan precisely.
Well said, and that was my impression when I reviewed Javad products with you as well.
Shawn Billings, post: 449380, member: 6521 wrote: What? Never met a deadbeat genius?
..only read of them in proverbs. 🙂
Brad Ott, post: 449369, member: 197 wrote:
conscientious
lmbrls, post: 449360, member: 6823 wrote: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/101882.Calvin_Coolidge&apos ;">Calvin Coolidge
That's a lot of words for Silent Cal.
The story is told that a woman at a social function said to him "They told me I wouldn't get three words out of you, but I bet I could."
His reply, "You lose."
R.J. Schneider, post: 449364, member: 409 wrote: Wow! Being able to dismiss talent, education, and genius - in one quote - is pretty intense. 😮
This is a quote not a bumper sticker. There is a big difference between dismissing and stating these elements alone will not guarantee success. Obviously, combining talent, education and genius with persistence is the optimal approach.
Tom Adams, post: 449368, member: 7285 wrote: Sound like a quote that Thomas Edison might use to berate Nicola Tesla.
Interesting, would you elaborate?