Some dude came in my office yesterday and made this announcement to my assistant. ( it's his # on the pin and he signed the COS- so I'm enjoying this opportunity to watch him have his discretion stretched a bit- yes I'm a bad person 🙂 ) anyway, we staked out the county right of way and he's not happy.... we're into his field at one end of the job by 12 feet... at a different location down the road, we're shy of him... which of course he thinks is absolutely fine....
one of his arguments is that my agency doesn't have authority to stake the county right of way....:-|
more later...
I am doing a survey right now, where I am going to give another surveyor opportunity to revise his survey. IF he does, fine, if not, then I will publish the issues.
Such it is. Tell 'im to publish his plat!
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> ... I am going to give another surveyor opportunity to revise his survey....
In Oklahoma contacting a surveyor you disagree with is required by the Minimum Standards. That is not to say that it is common practice. Rather a lot was made of that during the recent Annual Convention.
I must say that busting in with "I'm giving you the opportunity to pull your pin" as opposed to "let's discuss this" is rather poor politics.
If I am not mistaken, the issue at hand is a land owner stating as such, not another surveyor.
ammo
According to how I interpret the Montana Statutes, a Land Surveyor does have the authority to "stake" R/W:
37-67-101. Definitions
(7) "Practice of land surveying" means any service or work, the performance of which requires the application of special knowledge of the principles of mathematics, physical sciences, applied sciences, and:
(a) the principles of property boundary law to the recovery and preservation of evidence pertaining to earlier land surveys;
(b) teaching of land surveying subjects;
(c) measurement and allocation of lines, angles, elevations, and coordinate systems;
(d) location of natural and constructed features in the air, on the surface of the earth, within underground workings, and on the beds of bodies of water, including work for the determination of areas and volumes;
(e) monumenting of property boundaries;
(f) platting and layout of lands and the subdivisions of land, including the alignment and grades of streets and roads in subdivisions;
(g) preparation and perpetuation of maps, plats, field note records, and property descriptions; and
(h) locating, relocating, establishing, reestablishing, laying out, or retracing of any property line or boundary of any tract of land or road, right-of-way, easement, right-of-way easement, alignment, or elevation of any of the fixed works embraced within the practice of (engineering).
I guess the only thing you might be guilty of is trespassing....Pay the J o' P 20 bucks...I agree, however, the other fella has all the social skills of a turd in a punch bowl. This one sounds like a hoot. Wish I was there. :snarky:
That sounds an awful lot like an ultimatum. I do believe he intends to destroy that "pin" if its not removed. Believe each state has certain rules about that. Most of them are quite against having anyone disturb a monument. Fines and jail time and such. He should be reminded of that.
Sounds like a good place to put one of those FENO type monuments with the root system.
Kinda related bit not involving another surveyor, one time I set a monument part way into a meadow. The original stone had be moved to the edge of the trees about 200' further west and just tossed on the ground. It was federal land to the west, and the trees were used as fence posts. The old lady came out of that cabin, shotgun in hand. It was exciting!
> If I am not mistaken, the issue at hand is a land owner stating as such, not another surveyor.
I wondered about that, but doesn't "his # on the pin" imply otherwise?
I think it was rankin files assistant's' number on the pin.
doesn't have authority to stake
I think I know that guy!!
> I think it was rankin files assistant's' number on the pin.
I was responding to Nate's post, not Rankin's.
and I was responding to CeeGee's post/question....
I agree the it is Rankin File's assistant's number on the pin.
That law is hard to enforce when should there be a case of no witness, well then they don't charge anyone. Ignoring the obvious.
Mostly, the law does not want to get involved.
