I got a lecture on how to proceed to survey a family ranch. One of the seven interested parties explained to me that they have a legal description describing their parcel and I have to follow it to the letter (one description doesn't close by 47'). ?ÿ
Had I done so I would have shrunk the property by almost 20 acres...??????.
Also I needed to map out the county road per the OLD maps and not the new ones, even though the county road maps and the description are in conflict.
I think I'll just continue how I was going to from the time I first looked at this "interesting" parcel. It will not look like the GIS, that's for sure.?ÿ
One of the seven interested parties explained to me that they have a legal description describing their parcel and I have to follow it to the letter
OK, but it's going to cost you; my fee just doubled...
One of the seven interested parties
Now you did it. You have more than seven now.
I got a lecture on how to proceed to survey a family ranch.....
Quoting Perry Mason, "You are free to terminate our relationship at any time. But as long as I represent you I will not allow my hands to be tied in any way."
A brief detour.........speaking of Perry Mason.?ÿ Some of us are old enough to remember when The Flintstones was a new television show.?ÿ When Barney and Betty decided they would like to have a child of their own they chose Bamm Bamm. (October 3, 1963)?ÿ But, some crotchedy old rich guy decided he wanted Bamm Bamm.?ÿ He hired Perry Masonry to represent him.?ÿ In this rare case, Perry lost.?ÿ It so happens the TV show Perry Mason was one of the top shows at the same time as The Flintstones and was a direct competitor at the time this aired.
.....It will not look like the GIS, that's for sure.?ÿ
YEA!!!!!!!!!!!
It will not look like the GIS, that's for sure.?ÿ
Which reminds me of a conversation I recently had with a friend whose son is a concrete contractor.?ÿ On a local job replacing a disintegrating driveway, the city inspector made him take out the existing flare at the curb cut because it was over the lot line projected to the curb on the GIS.?ÿ
The GIS shows everybody's fences a couple feet off the lines and even other driveways over the lines.?ÿ I looked for survey records in the neighborhood and found none close enough to help.?ÿ He also used my magnetic locator and found no monuments on the front of that or adjacent lots.?ÿ
But the GIS ruled - "it's on the city web site so it has to be right."
And I even wonder what the legality is of projecting the lot lines into the dedicated street.?ÿ You are using some of that "public" land for the end of your driveway so why does it matter if it is in front of your lot or your neighbor's?
I had one a couple of summers ago, the lady that was representing her family called us from FL.?ÿ When we started working on the property, it was discovered the property had not been visited by anyone, no cattle, no nothing for 25 years. Very overgrown and dense.?ÿ The lady doing the representing kept arguing us that it shouldn't be taking so long, she remembered from her childhood there were roads and trails everywhere.... This lady also said she was a real estate broker, and argued our fees.?ÿ A quick search of her in t he internet showed she had been stripped of her real estate license for gross misrepresentation of facts.
A quick search of her in t he internet showed she had been stripped of her real estate license for gross misrepresentation of facts.
Now Monte that CAN'T be right.?ÿ If real estate agents were stripped of licensure for "gross misrepresentation of facts" there wouldn't be but 10 or 12 in the Metro Atlanta area.
Andy
there wouldn't be but 10 or 12 anywhere in the country.
There; I fixed it...
GIS = Get It Surveyed.
Here, the municipal GIS databases are based on the legal cadastral fabric assembled by the Ontario Registry Office--not the other way around.
In a Torrens system the GIS might have a bit more weight, especially if the photos got aligned correctly. But, there are all sorts of issues with implementing that in a web environment.
New Zealand uses the Torrens system and all surveys post 2007 are created and lodged digitally in Landonline (all boundary surveys are recorded). That leaves a lot of the country not covered and while the govt department in charge does have a reasonably accurate spatial dataset for urban areas its not so good in rural areas. Still no substitute for fieldwork when it comes to determining legal boundaries.
Take a look at what they are doing in British Columbia.
It's a non-profit, private company that takes care of the survey and title information in the entire Province.
A friend of mine wrote an article and I went with him on 2 interviews in 2009. We talked for a total of about 8 hours with the head of the survey and his assistant.
Looked like a phenomenal system...
That describes the NZ system except we can also lodge digital data, no hard copy or pdf plans here, you do generate diagrams of your survey but the digital vector data is authoritative.
That describes the NZ system except we can also lodge digital data, no hard copy or pdf plans here, you do generate diagrams of your survey but the digital vector data is authoritative.
Does NZ allow monumentation to be reset via coordinates alone?
The funny thing about GIS. There is a history to it. I have a "GIS through the years" file for my survey.?ÿ
Turns out it's interesting. There is the current GIS, there is a hard copy of an early version done per township for Ag lands, there is a early computer file with poly lines that I have in my autocad files, and finally there are old had drawn tax maps for each township.?ÿ
Guess which one does the best lying out my survey,,,,,,,,,,, the old hand drawn tax map. I wonder how they could figure out where to put these properties,,,,,,there was never a survey filed.?ÿ
From the time of the old hand drawn maps the boundary has degraded through the years in the GIS till we are where it is today, looks to be plus or minus 18 acres incorrectly imputed.?ÿ
Yet in the 1970s and 1980s it was correctly drawn.?ÿ
In the 70's/80's; the tax maps, in Nebraska were drafted by the County Survey Department. Maybe it was like that, where you're from...