Richard Imrie, post: 448076, member: 11256 wrote: (By the way, in the first image, is that fingers or knees?)
Looks like a contraception device; put that between your daughters knees; and she'll never get pregnant...;):smarty:
Surveyors are perpetual cobblers, re-purposing stuff all the time. They are also cheapskates.
And...
They are also habit prone.
And buried flagging can last a long time.
So...
ANY nail, with flagging, tied, or poked through, or a noose on the nail, it's probably been placed by a surveyor.
I found a surveyors nail, last wk, that was probably 30+ yrs old... 0.05' from where a pin was supposed to be... Still had the flagging.
It was maybe where they ran out of rebar...
Flagging is pretty good evidence.
N
I'm not too picky about the brand of flagging as long as its Artic strength because the cheap stuff doesnt last a week.
Another thing; do the colors of flagging have different meanings? Or are they just random. Because typically when I set control points I either use orange or pink. With Property Markers, pink, blue or sometimes both, so I'm really never sure what colors mean which.
Also thank you to everyone who helped me find out that it is indeed a 60D Nail. I was able to pick some more up at my local hardware shop and tie some pink flagging to it
Locally when tie blue to what you want cut and tie pink to mark stop cutting.
Multi colored flagging is where they put a new entrance into the forest.
Pink tied to a stake is where they place a pole.
Any color of flagging gets run over and destroyed by the next big yellow machine that comes by.
Local traditions only, I like blue and white for boundary, red white and blue for bench marks and pink for survey control.
The agency I work for (WSDOT) has certain colors assigned for various tasks. Yellow for centerline, blue for drainage and slope stakes, red for R/W, white for clearing/grubbing and electrical, green for sanitary sewer, multiple colors for references. For easements and miscellaneous details such as orientation stakes or nails for large, circular catch basin covers- I use red/white polka-dot flagging which is non-standard.
More often than not, though, I'll use whatever I have on hand for control flagging under nails.
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
At the agency I work for (WSDOT) we use:
Blue for drainage and slope staking;
Red for R/W;
Yellow for roadway centerline;
Green for sanitary sewer;
White for clearing/grubbing and electrical; and
Multiple colors for references/control.
I use red/white polka dot flagging for staking easements and other miscellaneous items such as orientation stakes or nails for eccentric circular catch basin covers, etc. (this is not a standard type of flagging for us to use).
As for brands of flagging: I've grown fond of Presco.
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
Just set some new 60D's out in a field for an offset. Here's one of them
RobertMS, post: 448242, member: 13052 wrote: Just set some new 60D's out in a field for an offset. Here's one of them
I also did see some odd boards sticking up from the ground in the general vicinity with trianglular shaped pieces of wood nailed into the sides. I don't know if they were related or not, because some of the arrows pointed In the general direction of some MAG nails set in the curb
RobertMS, post: 448243, member: 13052 wrote: I also did see some odd boards sticking up from the ground in the general vicinity with trianglular shaped pieces of wood nailed into the sides. I don't know if they were related or not, because some of the arrows pointed In the general direction of some MAG nails set in the curb
boards sticking out of the ground may indicate a water valve/well/gas/ect
RobertMS, post: 448243, member: 13052 wrote: I also did see some odd boards sticking up from the ground in the general vicinity with triangular shaped pieces of wood nailed into the sides.
These generally indicate a 'stub-out'. They use the 4x4's that the pipe was delivered on, so the triangular shaped pieces are there to keep the pipe from rolling off.
Dougie
RobertMS, post: 448158, member: 13052 wrote: Another thing; do the colors of flagging have different meanings? Or are they just random. Because typically when I set control points I either use orange or pink. With Property Markers, pink, blue or sometimes both, so I'm really never sure what colors mean which.
Flagging colors are incredibly regional, and sometimes even vary from firm to firm. I have tried to match the underground utility locate marks for construction staking:
Red: electrical
Blue: water line
Green: sewer line
Yellow: gas line
White: concrete (curb/sidewalk)
Orange or pink: everything else
Orange with blue: survey control
Pink with blue: survey control
SellmanA, post: 448168, member: 8564 wrote: Green for sanitary sewer...Blue for drainage
summerprophet, post: 448481, member: 8874 wrote: Green: sewer line ...Blue: water line
The https://www.alliancepipeline.com/SafetyEnvironment/Safety/Documents/UniformColorCodes.pdf&apos ;">APWA scheme makes no differentiation between storm drain sewers and sanitary sewer. Indeed, there was a time when the 2 where not separate systems. That time has passed. It's kind of a problem. APWA reserves purple for "reclaimed water, etc." That's close enough to storm water for me. I use purple for storm drains.
Mark Mayer, post: 448488, member: 424 wrote: Indeed, there was a time when the 2 where not separate systems. That time has passed.
Not entirely
James Fleming, post: 448490, member: 136 wrote: Not entirely
I didn't mean to imply that there aren't a lot of combined sewer systems remaining out there. Portland has it's share. But there aren't any new ones being staked out for construction. I hope.
There's a comparatively recent photo on (cough!) Wikipedia showing combined sewer pipes in Ghent, Belgium...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_sewer
I do know Seattle has substantial problems with combined systems in old parts of town, being seriously taxed during heavy rainstorms.
The only superior evidence is that which you haven't yet found.
summerprophet, post: 448481, member: 8874 wrote: Flagging colors are incredibly regional, and sometimes even vary from firm to firm. I have tried to match the underground utility locate marks for construction staking:
Red: electrical
Blue: water line
Green: sewer line
Yellow: gas line
White: concrete (curb/sidewalk)
Orange or pink: everything else
Orange with blue: survey control
Pink with blue: survey control
I never really associated the Utility Locate colors with survey flagging uses until I came across a lath stake for an electrical easement that used red flagging (again, same area as before).