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(@lee-d)
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paden cash, post: 379566, member: 20 wrote: yup

Carhartt Flame Resistant Clothing

That Carhart stuff is nice but too rich for my blood - I do have two Carhart shirts and two pairs of Wrangler jeans that the company supplied, as well as the obligatory coveralls. Academy Sports actually carries some FRC that's a little more reasonably priced.

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 8:32 am
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Just purchased a new one recently. For $16 I didn't even hesitate. Not sure how old my last one is but it didn't have a brim. Also had to get a new orange safety vest because they (Railroad) don't approve the lime green ones. UGH!

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 8:34 am
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I carry orange and lime green; I wear the lime green wherever I can because it's both mesh and FRC.

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 8:39 am
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Jim Frame, post: 379548, member: 10 wrote: Fire resistant clothing?

Absolutely. Any oil and gas project requires all outer layer be fire resistant. Imagine how hot that is in August in Texas.

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 10:34 am
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I carry full PPE (personal protective equipment) which includes yellow Nomex pants, yellow Nomex jacket, NFPA approved gloves, goggles, red/yellow shroud (goes on the back of the helmet), yellow helmet, fire shelter (shake-and-bake bag), and web gear (like a backpack) which holds the fire shelter in its case and a water bladder. They issued me a red "go" bag to put it in. I don't have to put it on, just carry it, required to be with me on active fires. We are usually at the origin or some other place miles from the active fire but sometimes we drive through active fire to get to our area of interest. I have Cal Fire door shields, everyone, I mean everyone, including LEOs and other Fire personnel assume we know what we are doing and let us drive on through the road blocks. We demanded some training because of this.

I absolutely never ever never never wear orange under any circumstances whatsoever. Inmates wear orange, we wear yellow or lime green or blue, no ifs and buts about it. Wearing orange will get you a lot of suspicious looks from the LEOs out there.

Helmet colors:
Yellow=crew or other non-leadership person such as the press or non-fire fighters.
Red=Fire Captain
White=Fire Chief (Battalion Chief and above).

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 11:02 am
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Dave Karoly, post: 379593, member: 94 wrote: White=Fire Chief (Battalion Chief and above).

Ali this time I've been a Battalion Chief and I didn't even know it!

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 11:59 am
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So long as the thing the hard hat sits on does not expire.....

 
Posted : June 30, 2016 12:06 pm
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I remember a client of mine required that survey crew wear complete HSE gear - vest, boots,vest & hard hat at all times within the project area.
OK, problem was project area was an expansion tract of land located next to the existing refinery. OK, problem was there was no access from existing refinery to adjacent tract of land since the refinery was fenced off on all sides with CHB walls or cyclone fences. Crew had to make the long loop to the back road to enter the new site for the topo survey.
I asked HSE why we needed to wear hard hat since there was no ongoing construction where a bolt might fall out of the sky?
He said it was required HSE policy....
Some people just seem to leave their common sense at home.

 
Posted : July 1, 2016 8:21 pm
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Loyal, post: 379507, member: 228 wrote: One of things that I really notice reading this forum, is the diversity of surveys & surveyors that are so much different than my little boondock world in the Great Basin.

I just popped open some manholes yesterday to measure the inverts for the first time in about 20 years. Most days I'm tromping through the woods somewhere.

I did have to wear a hardhat a lot on a windfarm project about 9 years ago after the construction/safety folks started taking over the site. My brother felt sorry for me after that and bought me one with a small rechargeable fan in the top of it that blows air down on you. I've never used it but you never know.

Licensed Land Surveyor
Finger Lakes Region, Upstate New York

 
Posted : July 2, 2016 1:54 am
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Scotland, post: 379572, member: 559 wrote: had to get a new orange safety vest because they (Railroad) don't approve the lime green ones. UGH!

Some years back the company I was with bought everybody new lime green vests, to replace their orange ones, to placate the railroad we were working near at the time. UGH!

 
Posted : July 2, 2016 8:31 am
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My hardhat gets used occasionally as a rain hat, LOL

SHG

 
Posted : July 7, 2016 6:02 am
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As the safety observer on construction sites I've been the "bad guy" more than once.
1) hard hats DO have an expiration date, generally five years.
2) paint and decals on hard hats are NOT allowed except in specific situations (company names, local unions, safety training, etc.). Paint and decals can cover cracks and other defects.
3) bills are to be worn FORWARD, manufacturers only test them in the forward direction. Some (a few) do include notes that state they can be worn backwards (luckily for instrument men). This is probably the one item that I've had the most arguments over.

I DON'T like having to wear hard hats but I do on construction sites. My favorite hard hat was an old aluminum one (MSA McDonald T) but almost no sites allow them any more.

Andy

 
Posted : July 7, 2016 11:31 am
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Andy Bruner, post: 380335, member: 1123 wrote: As the safety observer on construction sites I've been the "bad guy" more than once.
1) hard hats DO have an expiration date, generally five years.

Andy

That actually was my original point.

ALL of my hard hats have EXPIRED!

If I ever need one again (hopefully NOT), I'll have to buy a new one.

😉
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Posted : July 7, 2016 12:06 pm
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I am positive that all the rules have changed, once upon a time it was the webbing had to be replaced a time or two every year.

The hardhat itself may stand the test of time depending upon condition of the material.

Every site I worked on, the union guys helmets were totally covered with stickers that basically ranked their importance and seniority on the jobsite and in the union hall.

While working out of state from Arkansas to Alabama at various IPCo woodyards in 1981 & 82, I would always label the most recent Longhorns football and basketball scores on mine.

I got a lot of discouraging words but they never shipped me back to Texas over that, which was my intent.

:gammon:

 
Posted : July 7, 2016 1:24 pm
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I have had my hard hat since 1974.Four more years till retirement.Think I will just keep it.

 
Posted : July 8, 2016 5:32 am
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There are some hardhats that do allow the harness to be reversed. It has to have a special emblem on it. I believe the term is reverse donning, but it has been several years since I spoke with that safety guy.

This is the emblem you need to look for.

This is the date code:

 
Posted : July 8, 2016 5:49 am
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