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Which is correct;

1. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet pass a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....

2. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet past a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 11:49 am
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passing


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 11:56 am
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:good:


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:02 pm
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More of a structural question.

3.) thence N xx°xx'xx" E and passing through a 5/8" iron rod @ 300.00 feet, and passing through a 1/2" rebar @ 402.25 feet, but in all a total distance of 600.00 feet to a big dead skunk in a rock pile, on the north line of said NE1/4-SE1/4...;
thence...

I like your question. It means you are considering....

We need more of that.

N


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:04 pm
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JMHO, but...

1. Passing over. We all know what you mean by making a passing call, but to be pedantic you can pass to the side of something.

2. I put the overall distance first...just because.

Thence North along x line 600.00 feet; passing over a bent 5/8" goat stake at 300.00 feet.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:08 pm

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I like to "Pass through" them. If you pass over them.... you might get high!

🙂


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:18 pm
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> Which is correct;
>
> 1. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet pass a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....
>
> 2. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet past a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....

None of the above.

3. ...thence North along said line 300 ft; thence East 300 ft; thence South 300 ft; thence West 300 ft to POB.

Show the "found monument" on your recorded survey map. Don't include it in a property description. This is not rocket science and we are not solving world peace. We are doing our best to perpetuate and maintain a unique description for each and every parcel of land.

Pass is something you wave at or play football with. Past is something you went by or already did. Neither word belong in a property description IMHO.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:18 pm
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> Which is correct;
>
> 1. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet pass a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....
>
> 2. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet past a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....

If you are going beyond it, you've passed it. Why not use beyond?


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:18 pm
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If you pass through them you may knock them 0.04' off line 😀


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:25 pm
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In Texas only the property description normally gets filed with the deed, the plat ends up in a desk somewhere.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:26 pm

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"passed" or "passing" denotes physical location. "past" denotes time.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:38 pm
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I agree with Robert, but that could be a regional thing. Surveys are not filed here only the deed. It's best to put as much information as you can in the description including a reference to your own survey and any old deeds and filed plans/plats. That's the way it works 'round here at least.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:47 pm
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Passed? 🙂


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:48 pm
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>"past" denotes time.

Not necessarily when past is used as a preposition.

"I got that creepy feeling when I drove past the cemetery"
"The adult bookstore is on Scuzball Street, 200 feet past the pawn shop"


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:49 pm
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Gramma's Nosey Question

> In Texas only the property description normally gets filed with the deed, the plat ends up in a desk somewhere.

That is just plain wrong and unprofessional.

Personally, I want people to know what in the heck I did on my survey and why I decided to do what I did. It is my decision, it is my liability, and I will back it up. This does not pertain to some guy wanting to put a fence up tomorrow, it pertains more to the 3rd owner about 15 or 30 yrs from now trying to put that fence up long after I'm pushing daisies.

For the life of me I will never understand why any state does not require recordation of a survey if a licensed professional sets their monument in the ground. And for the other life of me I don't understand why any professional surveyor would not want their decisions in the record book for others to know what they were thinking at the time.

Oh that's right, that time has passed us all. I like looking at the past, and hope others will follow my footsteps.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 12:53 pm

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I don't understand the point of omitting the monument calls from a description.

I also think you misunderstood the example. We're talking about a straight line here, with a monument online between the end points.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 1:03 pm
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Thence along xxxxx North 300.00 feet to a 5/8 inch iron rod; thence continuing along xxxxx North 300.00 feet to a ....

please don't try to reinvent common language, keep it dead simple.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 1:08 pm
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:good:


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 1:10 pm
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Most of the time, when you quote the drawing being an attachment to the property description, the drawing will be recorded along with the deed or other document the description is included.
It can also be helpful for the drawing to be on the same size of paper as you description.
😉


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 1:15 pm
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> Thence along xxxxx North 300.00 feet to a 5/8 inch iron rod; thence continuing along xxxxx North 300.00 feet to a ....
:good: that's how I'd do it.


 
Posted : January 15, 2015 1:22 pm

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