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> 1. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet pass a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....
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> 2. Thence North along x line at 300.00 feet past a 5/8 inch iron rod found at .... and continuing for a total distance of 600.00 feet to....
Like foggy said: PASSING B-)
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Yeah, just "passing" adding 'through' or 'over', or 'by' is just extra, unnecessary language, simplify!!!
🙂 Agreed leaves no doubt. Simple is better. Let the attorneys screw it up.
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-JD-
I actually find that a little confusing. Normally only have a new "Thence" at a bearing change. I like to see the passing calls in a cumulative total then a final "in all" or "a total distance of xxx" to be clear.
That's how I've always done it.
Neither. You go TO the iron rod, which is the end of the course. Then you begin the next course.
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> Pass is something you wave at or play football with. Past PASSED is something you went by or already did. Neither word belong in a property description IMHO.
Past is a function of time.
JMHO, why not stop and have a lookabout at the point. Thence North 300 feet; thence continue North 300 feet.
Vern
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> JMHO, why not stop and have a lookabout at the point.
I like the way you think.
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N
Vern
I use Nate's terminology. That is the way my mentors did it, and that's the way I "grew up" surveying.
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My point is recording your surveys. I do not understand why any state or surveying organization does not promote that. Why in the heck do they make us take all the tests, pass them, pay their fees, deal with the liability, and then suck back up to them? Answer that please if you can tell a good reason why not to record your surveys. No I am not a lawyer.
Property descriptions are what they are. A high percentage of them are written, or were written, by laypersons, as is exemplified by the original post.
"Pass or Passed"? Wow. Pretty simple in my simple mind.
The next super surveyor will come along and call your monument (or accepted) off by 0.04 ft. Put it on a map and make it public record. Pretty simple really.
Who are we protecting there? The public, or a warm and fuzzy to CYA?
Some sort of a pedantic, expression of perfection. Some little warm fuzzy way deep down in a surveyor... Yeah, But I like it.
N
I like Peter's, if the pipe is intended to be a control call. If it isn't then don't include it in the description
Uh, James, that would be "passed", not "past". Get a good unabridged dictionary and you will see that "past" is time associated.
What you quote is indeed "common usage" and today, is probably acceptable, but that does not make it right.
Passed versus past
> Uh, James, that would be "passed", not "past". Get a good unabridged dictionary and you will see that "past" is time associated.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/past
PREPOSITION:
1To or on the further side of:
he rode on past the crossroads
1.1In front of or from one side to the other of:
he began to drive slowly past the houses
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/past
preposition
: at the farther side of (something) : beyond (a particular place)
: up to and beyond (a person or place)
Examples of PAST
The office is two blocks past the intersection.
Turn left just past the stairs.
We drove past the house.
I must have walked right past her.
He looked past me to the next customer.
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/american-english/past
past
preposition, adverb
past preposition, adverb
on the far side of something, or from one side to the other:
They live just past the post office.
Three boys went past us on bikes.
http://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/past_passed.htm
Past
The word past has several meanings (usually related to time before the present or to indicate movement from one side of a reference point to the other side.) Past can be used as an adjective, an adverb, a noun or a preposition:
As a preposition, past means beyond or denotes movement from one side of a reference point to the other.
Don't go past the gate.
(past = beyond)
Alan ran past the postman.
(past = denotes movement from one side to the other)
http://www.dailywritingtips.com/passed-vs-past/
“Past” as a preposition
It can also be used for location: “Beyond in place; further on than; at or on the further side of; to a point beyond.” (OED)
“My house is the one just past the turning.”
Proved your point
Excellent, my good friend.
When a lawyer says he passed/past the bar, what did he really do? Perhaps he walked past the bar to get the examination where he passed the bar.
Yes Jim, the words TO, ALONG, and even THENCE cause major grief to many. Not really sure why, but it does.
Me, I keep it simple. If I'm back in the woods, in BFE desert, or along a shore somewhere and want to set my super duper high precision calculated location and find something else within what I consider a reasonable distance.... I just smile and say "whew, I done good". Harmony in the neighbor hood is almost better than sliced bread.
I'll show it on my map, record my survey, and let the property description stand as is. Lot 666 is still Lot 666. It might be 1.00 acres, 1.005 acres or 0.9666 acres. dunno, not my problem and I'm not making it mine.
Chain of title and even title companies used to be our friend. Times have changed though and may have passed us by. Or would that be past us by. Or was it in passing. I'm past worrying about it though as I move towards passing the baton to others. (that's a SWMBO joke)
Plat of Survey is attached herewith and made a part thereof.
Was always the last line on my legal descriptions...makes maps easier to find