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nathankelly5509
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I am having difficulty plotting this on a map in ArcGIS.?ÿ I am unfamiliar with what "Lot 1 and Lot 2" are.?ÿ Is it standard to label fractional quarters as lots on a deed?


 
Posted : November 5, 2018 3:54 pm
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Posted by: nathankelly5509

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I am having difficulty plotting this on a map in ArcGIS.?ÿ I am unfamiliar with what "Lot 1 and Lot 2" are.?ÿ Is it standard to label fractional quarters as lots on a deed?

These are Government Lots created by the G.L.O. Survey. You need the G.L.O. plat(s) and Field Notes before you can even attempt to decipher what you are working on.


 
Posted : November 5, 2018 4:13 pm
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This would be a very uncommon Section 6 in my part of PLSSia. ?ÿA normal Section 6 would have a total of seven lots, all being in the general area of 40 acres each with the numbering starting in the northeast corner of the section such that Lot 4 would be in the northwest corner and Lot 7 in the southwest corner. What gets fun is when extra reasons for Government lotting occurs in a section that would have some lots anyway. ?ÿFor example, river lots and lots bordering something such as an Indian boundary line or a State line.


 
Posted : November 5, 2018 4:34 pm
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I see.?ÿ Would the G.L.O survey and notes be available for the public??ÿ I am a GIS Analyst and have very little knowledge surrounding surveying methods/concepts; My job is to read the deed and plot it on a map for the men upstairs to see (It gets real fun looking at deeds from the 1800's :)..)

This issue will create a bottleneck for my project because the remainder of the deed uses the lots as a reference for the next bearing etc...


 
Posted : November 5, 2018 4:42 pm
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BLM hold the records - many areas are online

https://glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx

What state is this in


 
Posted : November 5, 2018 6:41 pm

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Sounds like you would benefit greatly from a surveyor who is skilled in the PLSS in this area.

If you want to learn about the PLSS, there are a number of college courses that teach about the PLSS and BLM has a CFedS program to teach the system. All of these courses assume that you will work under the supervision (and mentorship) of a qualified professional for a number of years before making decisions independently.

The feedback that you get from this forum (or any other forum) may lead to the correct answer or something totally bogus - it's totally irresponsible to act on these responses whether or not you get a valid answer (which you won't know unless things blow up in your face - or your clients/employers).

If you are going to be working with boundaries and legal descriptions - work with a qualified professional - develop a working relationship - the time that you spend doing this will count towards your time for professional licensure in nearly every jurisdiction (probably even in AR).


 
Posted : November 5, 2018 9:22 pm
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There are several on this site who are licensed or live in Mississippi. ?ÿEventually one of them will find this thread, discover you are from Mississippi and offer some sound advice. ?ÿHaving Lots 1 & 2 in the northwest quarter of a Section 6 is not normal. ?ÿIt can happen, but there must be a really good reason why it has happened.


 
Posted : November 6, 2018 7:35 am
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Posted by: nathankelly5509

I see.?ÿ Would the G.L.O survey and notes be available for the public?

Yes, and many landowners ha e a copy in their abstract.

It is essential that you find, and study. And rely on these.

Go to courthouse, ask at county clerks office, and tax office, and local surveyor. It is there, and you should have access. If this fails, call state surveyors office.

Keep at it, till you get it.

You cannot do your job without it.

Watch for resurvey plats. And, corrective resurvey plats.

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Posted : November 6, 2018 8:44 am
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I believe this is it, simple when you see it. I would also recommend you get the help of a land surveyor. One that is paid to help.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 6, 2018 9:30 am
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Oooooo, that is weird!

Sumbody's got sum 'splainin' to do (in my best Ricky Ricardo voice)

What year's version of the Manual was used in this part of Mississippi and how is this viewed as being the standard?


 
Posted : November 6, 2018 11:32 am

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That plat is from Arkansas; matching up the photo with the TR info and the acreage I'm pretty sure that's the correct plat. There are a bunch of later surveys so things may have changed but seeing the 98.07Ac. in the deed,,,,,, this must be the original 1837 plat.?ÿ


 
Posted : November 6, 2018 11:45 am
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I suggest contacting Landmark Surveying Services, LLC ? They did a boundary retracement of this land.

DDSM


 
Posted : November 6, 2018 1:14 pm