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The responses in my last post has lead me to ask another question. The date on your survey. I believe that we all can agree (stop laughing) that the date of the survey is the last date of field work, or a range of dates thereof. I do know some surveyors who also add the date they sign & seal the survey, which I do not. To me the date the survey is signed and sealed is of no matter.

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Posted : June 29, 2011 12:36 pm
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Our date is the day when the project is initiated, usually right after the initial phone call.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 12:38 pm
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I date my plat the day I do the drawing. This is usually a couple of days after the field work.

On the 2011 ALTA cert it has a date of field work and a date of plat.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 12:41 pm
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In Oregon, we have to provide a narrative of the work we've done on our recorded surveys. In that narrative, I include the names of the members of the field crew and the last day field work was done (although I have been known to show a date range when it is a more extended period of time). In the title block, I show the date that I signed the survey map.


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Posted : June 29, 2011 12:44 pm
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the date of my plans is the day that I remember to add it to my drawing, while finishing up the drafting. With the land court we are required to list the date of the field work, or range of dates. I have one now that I started in sept 2008, did the plan filed with the court and now will be re-dividing one of the lots, my field work date will encompass Sept 2008 to June 2011...


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 12:55 pm

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I always date the drawing per the last date of field work.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 12:56 pm
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In the notes we have the date(s) of field work, the date on the plan is the date that it was drawn, the LLS dates it the day he signs it.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 12:59 pm
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I list date of field work or range of days and label it as such. I also write date of signature and if I set monuments I state monuments set on ____________.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:00 pm
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NH requires that you provide the date of any monument set. Frequently ignored, but still required.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:12 pm
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The date on the survey is the last date someone was actually on the site.

Subsequent revisions such as adding names, later information that comes in after we send it out, etc., etc., gets an explanation, such as "subsurface gas line info added xx/xx/xx......no field update"


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:15 pm

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field date is last date of field work.
survey date is date the survey is issued


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:20 pm
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We must show the date of the last day in the field. (Field date)

The date the drawing was created.
AND all revision dates that follow.

Also I date my signature.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:22 pm
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oh yeah, and when I sign and stamp the plan I date that also...(like you're supposed to)


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:23 pm
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agreed, forgot to mention revision dates and signature date. good point.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:24 pm
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Interesting that most include a signature date. Not to argue, but just asking the reason for this, either by statute or personal.

Thanks !


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:39 pm

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I have an area in the title block for:

the date of survey (last day of field work or range if extensive project)
the date of the plat (last day I work on drafting it)

In the legend, I place a date corresponding to any monument set.

When I sign and seal, I place a date with my signature.

If revisions occur, there is an area in the title block for that also.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:46 pm
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Date of Survey> MASS.

250 CMR 6.00: Procedural and Technical Standards for the Practice of Land Surveying
By the Division of Professional Licensure

6.01: Cadastral, Original and Retracement Surveys
6.02: Data Accumulation Surveys (Topographic-Photogrammetric-Utilities- Site-Hydrographic)
6.03: Construction Layout Surveys
6.04: Title Insurance Surveys
6.05: Mortage Loan Inspections
6.90: Appendix A - Annotated Laws and Other Standards

6.01: Cadastral, Original and Retracement Surveys

11.The Registered Land Surveyor's seal, signature and date shall be affixed to the plan.

MA 250 CMR
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I kind of thought they meant all together... I sign through my stamp, just because I was taught to it that way...."It makes it effective" I was told years and years ago..


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 1:55 pm
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The date of the plat should reflect the date the project was completed in the field. Now, for subdivision plats, what I normally say is that this survey was done on the ground during the months of whatever to whatever with the field work being completed on some day. The drafting at that point, well it does matter when you sign and seal it. With subdivisions, regulations change day to day and you need to be able to seal to regs as of that day.

For instance, I was working a subdivision where I started before the addendum's to the subdivision ordinance came out. I sealed it afterward. My signature and seal say that my survey complied with the latest subdivision requirements. Now, it didn't add all that much, but the county attorney or county surveyor don't care that "Well, I started it under the old rules". Make the plat fit the new rules.

As ALWAYS, it depends.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 2:16 pm
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In Nebraska you get 90 days to file your survey "after the completion of the survey". This is vague to say the least. Most would agree that the clock starts running after the field work is complete. I would personally suggest it is the day the monuments have been set or the day the last monument is set and either the land owner or another surveyor relies upon it. At the very least it should be the day the owner gets a copy of the plat. The vagueness of the rule has caused some, when questioned why a survey was not filed, to state that they are still working on the drawing, and therefore it is not yet filed. The Board has no idea that a plat was given to the land owner.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 2:19 pm
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The date of survey is the last day of field work usually for me, but everyone does their own thing. In CA we must (by law) also sign, seal and note the date of the signature.


 
Posted : June 29, 2011 2:35 pm

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